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re: McNeese 0 @ LSU 16 Final

Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:55 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70386 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:55 am to
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do understand the way batting averages work LSUJML or should I explain them slowly to you. I promise I won't use any big words.


If you look at batting average as true determinant of talent, you aren't capable of using big words.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45696 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:57 am to
I understand batting averages just fine, Kling has been terrible at the plate

I look at OB%, he’s tied with White for 3rd highest on the team (out of starters)

I also think he is the best defensive option at CF & he should be given a chance for his bat to come back around
Last night was promising

I’m not arguing with you, this is a message board & everyone is entitled to their own opinion


Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30411 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:59 am to
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it's admirable how you and Josh and Driz fight to see which one of you can be Klingers #1 fanboi


It's hilarious that you think that this is what this is about.

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Still waiting for your justification how playing a guy hitting.105 is helping a 3-9 SEC team.


I don't play him, a national championship-winning coach is playing him. I assume it is because he is the best defensive center fielder LSU has. He is definitely the fastest player we have.

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But he is a big reason LSU is 3-9 in SEC play.



Do you really think the 9-hole batter hitting poorly for a stretch is ever the reason why a team is struggling to win? If you really do then you need some tutelage in the game of baseball.

Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:07 am to
So according to you him going 2 for 19 in SEC play has not hurt the team? Do you not think if he had 4 or 5 more hits it would have made a difference in those 1 run losses. Sure he is a good defensive centerfielder but he has not hit in SEC play this year or last year.

Obviously facts and logic are too difficult for Klingers fan bois.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:10 am to
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Unless he plays in SEC games we will not know if he can hit or not.I am not convinced Brown is definitely the answer in centerfield but cannot understand why he isn't given the opportunity to pass or fail so to speak.


Brown hurt his knee against Florida and that seemed to hurt him getting opportunities while getting his knee back healthy. Let's not act like he was lighting the world on fire before that though. It seems like his knee is better with him getting a little playing time over the last week or so though so we will see what happens.

To go against your point of Kling and facts of SEC stats, it shows that Kling has had recent success at the plate. Now is not the time to take him out. Maybe he has something clicking and gets it going now. Between the Vandy series and last night he is 4-8 with 3BB and 2K.

Now if he doesn't keep putting together productive at bats then you have to try something else. Now is not the time though.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:17 am to
You can ignore Rudy. He spent last night trolling the game thread. He kept spewing the same shite despite everyone shooting him down. He isn't posting for a discussion.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Yea I know notbilly obviously a factual discussion is difficult for you jeep defending that.105 batting average. Ride white knight ride.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:23 am to
I realize that. It was more for people who might not have realized that Brown did get hurt and was not able to play at full health for a few weeks and also just to throw out a few recent Kling stats. Hoping he turns the corner and gets some confidence going.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2094 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:27 am to
You have brought up Brown being injured several times. There was nothing to his injury and it didn’t hold him back at all. Rudy, don’t be upset with Kling. If you are going to be pissed about it, be pissed at JJ. He makes out the lineup, not Kling.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30411 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:29 am to
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So according to you him going 2 for 19 in SEC play has not hurt the team?


Nice deflection.

Let me rephrase your statement in the manner you are now using.

According to you, the nine-slot hitter being 2 for 19 is a big reason LSU is not winning more SEC games. Not the atrocious ERA of the pitching staff as a whole or the incredibly bad batting averages with RISP (Kling is batting above .500 with RISP according tot he graphic they posted last night). No, according to you, Kling batting 9th is the big reason.

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Sure he is a good defensive centerfielder but he has not hit in SEC play this year or last year.




Is anyone arguing he has hit well? Is anyone here suggesting his bat is the reason he is playing?

The closest you get are people saying he has hit the ball really hard right at people, which he did for a while, though he had a stretch where he clearly looked like he was overthinking at the plate and struck out a lot. But the last couple of SEC have not looked that way, he is back to getting the barrel on the ball.

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Obviously facts and logic are too difficult for Klingers fan bois.



You don't understand logic if you think it is simply repeating a fact everyone agrees on over and over again then trying to deflect by misstating something as part of your unneeded rebuttal.

And the whole Klingers fan bois thing comes across as an old man trying to sound like he is hip with the kids As one old man to another, it's a bad look.



Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:32 am to
I agree Kling couldn't hit SEC pitching last year and hasnt hit this year. Kling isn't the only centerfielder on the team but u would think he is by the way JJ keeps putting him out there.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:45 am to
You may be right on Brown and his injury.

It's pretty interesting that you disappeared last season when the team was playing well and if I remember right you just said you needed a break from this place. Now that they are struggling, I see recently you decided to show back up to make sure you can shite on JJ. Pretty telling on your end.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2094 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:54 am to
I haven’t shite on anyone. And I’m still not on here very much. I retired at the end of last year and have much better things to do.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37204 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:19 am to
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it's admirable how you and Josh and Driz fight to see which one of you can be Klingers #1 fanboi
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It's hilarious that you think that this is what this is about.
What’s funny is that I haven’t said one thing about Kling or Brown. I only chimed in because he was derailing the game thread and arguing with everyone. But I’m a lifelong “Klinger”.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:49 pm to
Oh damn, this thread is still going. Rudy’s got time for all of y’all.
I think the best time for brown to have been inserted was Florida, Arkansas. But Kling has been getting good contact, you probably leave him in unless he hits another slump.
It’s really hard to say what Jay will do this series, but I expect he’ll probably lean a little bit more towards playing the offensive lineups. Which probably means Braswell, Pearson, and Neal.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77518 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:57 pm to
Is pearson offensive? He has somehow avoided flack despite being a veteran who hasnt improved at all. He is barely playable offensive. Cant believe he hasnt removed some of the swing and miss from his game
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:23 pm to
People love to say that Kling and Neal are pull only hitters and can't hit yet I would say that Pearson is worse than both when it comes to pulling the ball. Difference is Kling and Neal were big time recruits and Pearson was not as big of an MLB draft threat.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Is pearson offensive? He has somehow avoided flack despite being a veteran who hasnt improved at all.


Not from me. At this point, Pearson might be the only name we could see in the lineup that I don't understand in any way. While Neal isn't playing well, I understand he's a left-handed bat with potential. Braswell looks bad in the field, but he's our best bat in SEC play. Kling has struggled a lot but is great in CF. Pearson isn't an offensive play or defensive play and I think he's max'd his potential. He's hitting roughly .230 for the season and in SEC games. Even Kling has similar or better offensive numbers than Pearson in almost every category except HRs.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3650 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:36 pm to
That’s a good question tbh. Trading him and Larson could be an option, since Larson has been better lately
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:29 pm to
I actually agree with Josh, Bayliner and notBilly. Pierson has not hit his k to walk ratio in SEC play is 12ks to 1 walk which is worst on team. Also Pierson should never play against lefthanded pitching he absolutely can't hit it.
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