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re: Mark May on SportsCenter...
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:04 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:04 am to Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
I don't think you can compare ticky tack holding vs ticky tack taunting. Holding during game play can be hard to determine, taunting on the other hand is easy to determine whether it's split second or otherwise.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:05 am to LSU25JV
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regardless of the call, we have the BEST punter in the nation,
Wing is amazing. A punter as a true weapon. I nave never seen one put the ball so consistently inside the 10 and 5 yd line markers.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:06 am to Golfer
If he would have ran through and not gestured toward his opponent, then the spirit of the rule would never have been questioned as it is now.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:23 am to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:Why? Holding doesn't even require determining intent, it's a strictly physical action. You see a jersey being plucked, then a ref would be in their rights saying that someone on the O-line has clearly kept the defender from advancing by grasping with hands or arms. But refs definitely don't call each and every one of these. They call the egregious ones.
I don't think you can compare ticky tack holding vs ticky tack taunting. Holding during game play can be hard to determine...
quote:I guess it is if you're going by the dictionary definition of taunting. The refs are going by the NCAA definition. The two are different, which I think a lot of people are having trouble understanding. The NCAA spells out specific examples and then provides for incredibly broad interpretation. Reminds me of Potter Stewart's definition of pornography: "You know it when you see it?" Essentially, the absolutely most subjective way of determining something?
Taunting on the other hand is easy to determine whether it's split second or otherwise.
Seriously, what if a ref decides that sneering at or giving an opponent the evil eye is taunting? The letter of the rule would allow a ref to call it this way and negate a TD.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:24 am to VOR
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So you should show no emotion and act like an robot.
Before the endzone, yes. I hate the fricking rule, really, I do... but, that's the rule.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:27 am to PnG Exsanguination
LOL, I just noticed that Wing starts to highstep out the back of the end zone after the run and then runs into the student section wall to engage the audience. He theoretically breaks those rules under several sections.
Now watch the play and determine whether you think college kids shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Now watch the play and determine whether you think college kids shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:21 am to Lester Earl
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The SEC officiating committee already backed the call.
Of course they did. They had no choice. What I'm saying is that the same play will not be called as "taunting" after discussions among the conference officials during the week. It was outrageously "ticky tacky" and should not have been called.
If a play like that were to be called in a close game that determined a championship, there would be a mutiny and rightfully so.
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im thinking, and i really cant think of that much. Turning toward a defender and throwing your arms out like that before you reach the endzone is taunting, bottom line.
Are you using Vagisil regularly? It could help.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:35 am to VOR
Anyone notice that he kicks with both feet? 
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:39 am to LSUcrawfish
bad interpertation of the rule IMO
that just wasn't egregious enough for me for them to make that call right there...taunting doesn't = celebrating and what Brad did was really a celebration
but it's the rule and would rather it happen yesterday than somewhere on the road in November
that just wasn't egregious enough for me for them to make that call right there...taunting doesn't = celebrating and what Brad did was really a celebration
but it's the rule and would rather it happen yesterday than somewhere on the road in November
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:46 am to stapuffmarshy
This was discussed on ESPNU sportscenter as well. They showed a clip of the ARkansas player that took it "to the house" and he turned around to see if an Auburn player was around him, then slowed down going into the endzone and then placed the ball on the ground just inside the pylon. Then placed his hands on his hips and walked off. The announcers said that it was more of an example of egarious(sp) taunting that what Wing did. They also said that it has been discussed with both defensive and offensive players unit meetings, however, probably not in special teams, specifically punters, meetings.
They also said that it was intended to stop the Reggie Bush style of doing a flip into the endzone when scoring.
They also said that it was intended to stop the Reggie Bush style of doing a flip into the endzone when scoring.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:00 am to TheShwenz
quote:Entertainment= ESPN. It was set up, it's a show.
Mark May on SportsCenter...
was livid
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:02 am to Fishhead
you had to watch it on replay to really even see it...you can barely see it when they show the highlight in live time...pretty fricking stupid. Penalize him after the TD if you do anything.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:09 am to stapuffmarshy
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that just wasn't egregious enough for me for them to make that call right there...taunting doesn't = celebrating and what Brad did was really a celebration
Go become and SEC official and when you see a play like that then don't call it because it wont be egregious enough for you.
It clearly was for the ref that called it
Posted on 10/9/11 at 11:10 am to PnG Exsanguination
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LOL, I just noticed that Wing starts to highstep out the back of the end zone after the run and then runs into the student section wall to engage the audience. He theoretically breaks those rules under several sections.
Now watch the play and determine whether you think college kids shouldn't be allowed to do that.
I'm with you all the way. I hate it. I love the celebrating in both college and the nfl. I loved the choreographed group celebrations in the endzone. Didn't bother me a bit. In fact, I miss it.
I'm all LSU through and through. I'm only calling it as I see it here.
And as I said, I know there are other infractions that are touchy as well, but none of that neither gives or takes from we are speaking of here.
This post was edited on 10/9/11 at 11:14 am
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