re: Mark May on SportsCenter...

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if Wing hadn't turned to the defenders and put his arms out, he would have been fine.


turning to the defenders did him in. I thought it was the right call.


but i also think there is worse taunting that goes in within the game, specifically DBs standing over WRs after a hit, for an example

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I guarantee you that this play will be discussed at the conference level and the officials will be instructed that the Wing incident was not was intended to be "taunting". Seriously, LE, his arms were extended for a second are two while looking at the defenders. Think for a minute about everything that could be deemed "taunting". It's insane.

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And I guarantee you his arms didn't extend arbitrarily for some other reason.

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I am not really in favor of showboating. But anyone who defends that silly call . . . really, take a look again . . . needs to re-evaluate their life. It's literally the dumbest call I've seen in my many decades of watching college football.

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I am not really in favor of showboating. But anyone who defends that silly call . . . really, take a look again . . . needs to re-evaluate their life. It's literally the dumbest call I've seen in my many decades of watching college football.

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I'd agree with this except I watched them hit Jake Locker with a taunting penalty for tossing the ball backwards over his shoulder.

I think the lesson we've learned here is, referees as a group really aren't intelligent enough to have interpretation of "taunting" placed in their hands. You write the rule and the dudes go into letter of the law mode that negates all rationality.

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Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent, or imitating the slashing of the throat.

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That's not one of the defined taunts in the NCAA regulation.

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If you're going to go to the trouble of quoting the rule, don't omit the line that immediately precedes what you cited as the rule:

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Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:
No player, substitute, coach or other person subject to the rules shall use abusive, threatening or obscene language or gestures, or engage in such acts that provoke ill will or are demeaning to an opponent, to game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited to:

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The underlined portion of your quote should be stricken from every rule that referees are required to follow. Where does it stop?

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Again, this is a stupid way to look at it.

Read the rule on pass interference. Then watch a game and call it as tight as this ref called taunting. See how ridiculous the game would be.

Then read the rule on holding. Apply the same fun standard.

Then read the rule on "pushing off" by a WR. Ditto.

I could go on.

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It doesn't matter. If that other stuff is missed or not called then it is what it is. That doesn't make this call incorrect.

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If you're going to go to the trouble of quoting the rule, don't omit the line that immediately precedes what you cited as the rule

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I did in the other thread about this. That actually supports the case even more so that this was a ridiculous call. Since that phrase opens up literally EVERYTHING to potentially be adjudicated as a taunting penalty, the referees are then expected to exercise careful judgement in what they are going to include in their definition of taunting beyond what is explicitly spelled out in the rules. To include a literally split-second action that is almost impossible to notice without the aid of slow motion technology seems to be stretching the intent of this rule, particularly as "excessive" celebration.

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That actually supports the case even more so that this was a ridiculous call. Since that phrase opens up literally EVERYTHING to potentially be adjudicated as a taunting penalty, the referees are then expected to exercise careful judgement in what they are going to include in their definition of taunting beyond what is explicitly spelled out in the rules. To include a literally split-second action that is almost impossible to notice without the aid of slow motion technology seems to be stretching the intent of this rule, particularly as "excessive" celebration.

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This.

It was a horrible call. Again, this will be addressed during the week at the conference level. Promise.

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So you should show no emotion and act like an robot.
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Not at all, you can celebrate as long as it's not excessive to my understanding. It just can't be during the act of the play, and it can't be toward the opponent.