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JakeFromStateFarm
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Turns out Fournette was this generation's Adrian Peterson. Great college back that never won a Heisman and never played for a national title.


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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Well Petersen did play for the NC.... just sayin...


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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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And a 1,000 rusher and STILL lost three games


this is your go to ignorance.

At no point was the post talking about wins and losses.


this is the post.....

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How in the hell do you have that type of talent on one offense and not even have a threat in the passing game?????? 



I responded to a poster saying we didn't have a passing threat when they were at lsu. which is flat out bull shite.

You know so little about football that you don't understand that there are 3 phases of football.

that 3000 yard passer,1000 yard rb,and 2 1000 yard wrs DON'T PLAY DEFENSE. The fact that I have to explain that to you isnt shocking. we scored 40 points and lost in 2013.

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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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if he played in a offense with a functional passing game, he would have broken several records.
A) LF broke several records
B) LF spent the majority of his career behind a QB that couldn't hit moving golf carts.
Wasting his touches when QB is terrible at hot routes, screens, and wheels would've been the huge disservice to LF that Spears and you guys would be complaining about today.



Rickdaddy4188
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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A) LF broke several records  
B) LF spent the majority of his career behind a QB that couldn't hit moving golf carts. 
Wasting his touches when QB is terrible at hot routes, screens, and wheels would've been the huge disservice to LF that Spears and you guys would be complaining about today. 


rational thought has no place in the rant. it doesn't matter that LF was the feature player for lsu,had one of the best careers in lsu history and ran behind a great oline built to maul people. it doesn't matter that in both his sophomore and junior years lsu was top 3 in rushing yards before contact.



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lsufball19
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Leonard Fournette holds the LSU records for:
Single Season Rushing Yards
Record for consecutive 100 yard games
Single Season Record for 100 yard games
Single Season and Career Record for 200 yards games
Broke Single game record for rushing yards (later broken by Guice)
Single Season Record for rushing yards per game
Single Season record for TDs

Any LSU record he didn't break was due to the fact that the guys in front of him played for 4 seasons. He also missed half of his junior season with an injury sustained in practice. Nothing about Les Miles' style of play would have changed the records he didn't break. Had he played 4 years like Faulk did, he would have shattered every record Faulk still holds

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TiggerB8t
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
I'm sure if you ask LF if he thinks he got short changed with his career due to being at LSU under Miles, he would be sure to agree.......not!

Being the type of person he is, LF would be the first to state that the only shorttall was on team goals of winning championships - the only thing Miles could've done differently with LF to improve his numbers would've been to allow him to play more in the 2nd half of many games rather than sitting the bench when LSU had a 20+ point lead and LF already had 150+ yards rushing. Maybe, just maybe, Miles was interested in seeing LF stay healthy and prolonging his career. LF himself chose to play against UF and Bama when he wasn't 100%, and Miles respected him and his competitive spirit enough to allow him to play. Could he have perhaps had more yardage and possible championships with a more diversified offense - possibly - depends on whether the pass took away from our run game, which was our bread and butter, for better or worse. To say Miles and LSU did him a big disservice is a crock, though. He knew what he'd bought into with Miles and Cam when he signed with LSU - his love for the school and his state overruled everything else - LF doesn't think the way Spears and other "me first" guys think. That's what separates him from a lot of other players - not just his physical skills.


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dukke v
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Jesus.... get a grip man ... I posted a fact and you lose your mind because it puts down on Miles.... poor baby....

LF set records for sure but this whole thread is about Miles not utilizing in ways he could have to where he would have been even better... Again your defending of Miles has gone over the edge.....


Rickdaddy4188
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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posted a fact and you lose your mind because it puts down on Miles.... poor baby....



lose my mind? I simply pointed out that no one was talking about wins and losses. You just once again brought up a topic no one was talking about bevause youre ignorant. The poster said we didn't have a passing threat when they were at lsu. then your retarded arse acted like offense is the only phase of football.
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Again your defending of Miles has gone over the edge.....


posting all the records LF set isnt defending miles dumbass. they are facts.
I even said we underutilized qbs wrs and tes under miles but youre too stupid to actually follow the thread.

die in 25 fires already.
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KiwiHead
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Actually think Spears is being too kind towards Miles and Cameron. Fournette was a mismatch on the field for just about anyone. A rare combo of speed and power and ridiculous talent. I was always surprised that Miles didn't try and use Fournette more in a passing game. I always thought having Fournette as a wide out could create nightmares for DB's. He was rarely ever put in that position . The few times he was he produced


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CptBengal
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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I was always surprised that Miles didn't try and use Fournette more in a passing game.



why?

miles had no idea what was going on.


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Wind Rivers Tiger
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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A poll just came out for the top 25 players in the NFL under 25 and both Jarvis and Odell were on it with Odell being number 1. How in the hell do you have that type of talent on one offense and not even have a threat in the passing game??????


Damn good question. Anyone want to venture a guess in the form of a one word answer?


lsufball19
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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LF set records for sure but this whole thread is about Miles not utilizing in ways he could have to where he would have been even better... Again your defending of Miles has gone over the edge.....

If we had run a different style of offense, Fournette wouldn't have had the volume of carries needed to set the records he did. The only way to create more space for him to run would have been to throw the ball more and more successfully. That would take carries away from him. The only thing we could have done to increase his yardage totals would have been in the area of receiving yards. We never utilized him in that manner, and I will concede that was a failure on our staff's part.

I mean honestly there was one team Fournette couldn't run on and that was Alabama. He shredded everyone else. Running on Alabama would have marginally made a difference in records he set or didn't set. What it prevented was him winning the Heisman.
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lsu1919
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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may have cost him the Heisman. Just saying


I just wanted to use your post as a jumping off point, not trying to call you out.

LF7 shoulda won the heisman, or more accurately, Henry should not have won it. The only difference between Henry and LF7 was henry didn't have to play bama. LF7 was the best back in the sec that year, and by extension, the country.

I will always think of the heisman as a joke of an award now. The voters should be embarrassed about that year.

Also, Miles shoulda came up with a better game plan for bama.


lsufball19
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Henry came up big in all of Alabama's big games. He deserved the Heisman in 2015. That does not mean he was better than Fournette but this false narrative that he didn't deserve the Heisman is ridiculous
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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LF7 shoulda won the heisman, or more accurately, Henry should not have won it.

If Fournette had like 50 yards against Bama that year I think he wins it running away.


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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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If we had run a different style of offense, Fournette wouldn't have had the volume of carries needed to set the records he did. The only way to create more space for him to run would have been to throw the ball more and more successfully. That would take carries away from him. The only thing we could have done to increase his yardage totals would have been in the area of receiving yards. We never utilized him in that manner, and I will concede that was a failure on our staff's part.





agreed. I don't know why we didn't run more wheel routes. to rhis day im astonished that we didn't have Guice and LF in the same backfield more often.


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lsu1919
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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Damn good question. Anyone want to venture a guess in the form of a one word answer?


Unimaginative

ignorant

complacent

stupid

Things like that. I'm sure there are many more.



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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
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Henry came up big in all of Alabama's big games. He deserved the Heisman in 2015. That does not mean he was better than Fournette but this false narrative that he didn't deserve the Heisman is ridiculous


Henry ran for less than 100 yards 5 times
LF ran for less than 150 yards just 3 times.
If LF had Henry's carries ,with a ypc # .5 yards less than his actual number( nevause more carries makes it harder to keep your you number up) he wouldve been 2nd or 3rd in ncaa history in rushing yards in a season.


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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
You are so classy.... that's the second time in two days that you are hoping I die in a fire.... grow up.......


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