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LSU's rushing attack is vastly underrated
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:26 am
The talking heads say things, then repeat them, then they become fact because they've said them so many times. This is usually done with no basis in reality.
They all simply mouth that Bama's rushing attack is better than LSU's with no view to anything factual, just that Trent Richardson had a few nice runs against some lesser teams and the "eye test" garbage. No doubt he's a great back, but LSU's rushing attack overall is better than Bama's in the big games.
Bama only played three "big" games this year (two at home) and LSU played five (only one at home). In Bama's three big games against Penn State, Arky and LSU, they rushed 111 times for 489 yards (4.4 ypc) and 3 TDs. In LSU's five big games against Oregon, WVU, Bama, Arky and UGA, LSU rushed 211 times for 1,002 yards (4.7 ypc) and TWELVE touchdowns.
Before you make fun of Oregon's defense, they are actually ranked above Penn State in rushing defense (46 v. 48). We also went against the No. 1 rushing defense (Bama) and No. 9 (UGA) in those five games. Also, West Virginia is surprisingly No. 51, just three spots behind Penn State in rushing defense.
The only one of the big game teams that does not have a respectable rushing defense is Arkansas (No. 79), which is the one common opponent.
LSU's rushing attack is extremely impressive, especially in the second half, to which Bama can attest.
Maybe this is Germans to LSU fans, but whenever I watch these dumb people on the analysis shows, I get ticked off because they have people to do research for them, but it seems that they are extremely lazy anyway.
They all simply mouth that Bama's rushing attack is better than LSU's with no view to anything factual, just that Trent Richardson had a few nice runs against some lesser teams and the "eye test" garbage. No doubt he's a great back, but LSU's rushing attack overall is better than Bama's in the big games.
Bama only played three "big" games this year (two at home) and LSU played five (only one at home). In Bama's three big games against Penn State, Arky and LSU, they rushed 111 times for 489 yards (4.4 ypc) and 3 TDs. In LSU's five big games against Oregon, WVU, Bama, Arky and UGA, LSU rushed 211 times for 1,002 yards (4.7 ypc) and TWELVE touchdowns.
Before you make fun of Oregon's defense, they are actually ranked above Penn State in rushing defense (46 v. 48). We also went against the No. 1 rushing defense (Bama) and No. 9 (UGA) in those five games. Also, West Virginia is surprisingly No. 51, just three spots behind Penn State in rushing defense.
The only one of the big game teams that does not have a respectable rushing defense is Arkansas (No. 79), which is the one common opponent.
LSU's rushing attack is extremely impressive, especially in the second half, to which Bama can attest.
Maybe this is Germans to LSU fans, but whenever I watch these dumb people on the analysis shows, I get ticked off because they have people to do research for them, but it seems that they are extremely lazy anyway.
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:31 am to Tigerpaul1969
It's another example of how the media cannot get their hands around Les Miles and the LSU football program. Les is doing things that are unconventional. The media wants to promote one running back. Our 4 back running attack is the best in the country. Les looks for athletic punters who can make an on the field decision to fake the kick or not. Les has found in Wing a calculating risk taker just like Les. Les is always looking for an edge in every position played. But the media has not picked up on it yet.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:33 am to Tigerpaul1969
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Tigerpaul1969
Solid post. The rushing attacks are relatively equal. I think most people would agree that Richardson is the most talented back among the six worth noting (Richardson, Lacy, Ware, Ford, Hilliard, and Blue). Just remember, the slightly above-average fan of any program has more knowledge of their team than most talking heads. These guys get paid for name recognition and to know a little about a lot of teams.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:34 am to TenTex
Excellent two posts - and so true!
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:35 am to Stagg8
nuh uh, remember Ware is in the same class as Richardson.....LAWL.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:36 am to Tigerpaul1969
LSU's rushing attack relies on different backs that all have their own unique strengths. I totally agree, our running game has been extremley underrated all year simply because we don't have 1 back that has put up lots of stats.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:37 am to thatdude1985
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nuh uh, remember Ware is in the same class as Richardson.....LAWL.
Only when these two teams play each other.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:38 am to Stagg8
Also interesting is that Ford and Blue both have better yards per carry than TR. Not saying they're better, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:40 am to thatdude1985
And the Alabama fans continue to impress.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:40 am to thatdude1985
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nuh uh, remember Ware is in the same class as Richardson.....LAWL.
Considering that Ware is currently our fourth best back, your inference is a good one. Now, whether Ford, Blue or Hilliard are in the same class?
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 11:42 am
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:41 am to thatdude1985
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thatdude1985
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:41 am to Tigerpaul1969
I don't recall LSU's rushing game being criticized. In yards/game LSU is ranked 17 and Bama is 15. Since you have a weaker passing game that means you're not getting stopped even when they know you're coming. That's a complement to the RG. LSU is 105 in passing and Bama is at 72.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:42 am to Tigerpaul1969
BTW, I don't remember ANY LSU fan arguing that Ware was as good or better than TR, but there were many who said that LSU's stable was as good or better than TR. That looks pretty spot on at this point. 
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:45 am to Tigerpaul1969
BTW, just so you think I'm not a complete homer. LSU is #1 in rushing in SEC only games. Bama is #2. We had virtually an identical schedule in the SEC. This does not count the SECCG. Avg Yards/gm 220.4/205.0 LSU/Bama.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:49 am to bama1959
We're not necessarily criticized, but the pundits' knee-jerk reaction is to say that Alabama has a better rushing game, pretty much across the board. I'm saying that is not the case at all.
As a matter of fact, my argument is that LSU's rushing game overall is better than Alabama's in the most hyped games of the year. It's slightly better, but I think it's better. Chris Faulk is a major reason for this. I believe he is the most underrated O-lineman in the SEC and absolutely should have been first-team all-SEC and probably first-team All-American, if these idiots actually paid attention to the games.
As a matter of fact, my argument is that LSU's rushing game overall is better than Alabama's in the most hyped games of the year. It's slightly better, but I think it's better. Chris Faulk is a major reason for this. I believe he is the most underrated O-lineman in the SEC and absolutely should have been first-team all-SEC and probably first-team All-American, if these idiots actually paid attention to the games.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:50 am to ItsThatDude12
oh hey...its another dude....hows the family? 
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:54 am to Tigerpaul1969
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We're not necessarily criticized, but the pundits' knee-jerk reaction is to say that Alabama has a better rushing game, pretty much across the board. I'm saying that is not the case at all.
As a matter of fact, my argument is that LSU's rushing game overall is better than Alabama's in the most hyped games of the year. It's slightly better, but I think it's better. Chris Faulk is a major reason for this. I believe he is the most underrated O-lineman in the SEC and absolutely should have been first-team all-SEC and probably first-team All-American, if these idiots actually paid attention to the games.
We have the best RB but you get a lot of yards from your QB that we don't get. Fact is we lose yards at QB due to sacks. AJ runs less than any QB we've had in years.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:55 am to Tigerpaul1969
After we struggled a bit running against Alabama (still ran for 148 yards) we ran for 291 yards on Western Kentucky, 353 yards on Ole Miss, 286 yards against Arkansas and 207 yards on UGA. We really turned it up at the end of this year.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:57 am to LSU Patrick
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BTW, I don't remember ANY LSU fan arguing that Ware was as good or better than TR, but there were many who said that LSU's stable was as good or better than TR. That looks pretty spot on at this point
You run the "I" formation a lot and we hardly ever do. In a 1 back scheme running TR then EL for fresh legs is as good a duo as there is in CFB.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 12:16 pm to bama1959
no.
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