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re: LSU vs USC
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:14 pm to Geauxtiga
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:14 pm to Geauxtiga
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Miles has even stated as much that he didn't want to risk the bounty to play a "top program" in OOC games. Wish I'd kept the link to post everytime I saw this posted.
Yes, it was in the Advocate. I think about the same time he said "cal-Berkley".
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Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:16 pm to Purple N Gold Blood
And so it starts.....
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:16 pm to Glacierbengal
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We have tried in the past, USC won't return LSU's calls
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Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:18 am to biglego
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Is this really the case? Why would USC not want to play LSU? USC plays everyone else. Did it just not fit into their schedule?
USC has enough 5 loss OOC teams (Notre Dame) on our OOC schedule.
We generally look for upper tier teams for the top OOC game.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:29 am to brdcstr
In my opinion, I believe that both schools would be up for the challenge. However, I believe that the NCAA won't let it happen. The talk about "What would have been?" seems to sell a lot more than actually letting teams play the game. I guess what I mean is that it is the same reason why the NCAA won't allow the only sport in Division 1 to have a playoff system. I believe that the political agenda with the media helps to make more money than actually settling it on the field. There is always going to be message boards, Television, Radio stations to bring up the LSU vs. USC argument or the fact that the undefeate Auburn team should have finished #1 or just like always, a BCS controversy at the end of the year. If both teams finally played or if there was a playoff system in tact; do you think they would ever really have anything to talk about or would it be more interesting? Thoughts?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:31 am to FrisceauxTiger
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the sky will turn to black and the moon to blood. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth...
Sorry. that just sounded ominous.
I love it when football fans wax poetic...
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:34 am to Purple N Gold Blood
Sorry, pal. No one is a bigger Tiger fan than I, but I don't think we could really beat USC this year. Maybe a couple of years ago and maybe a couple of years from now, but not now.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:39 am to reagancajun
Reagancajun, I disagree. I think we can still hold our own against USC. That Freshmen quarterback hasn't impressed me more than JJ for one. Also, their defense is still suspect as well. Sure, they played San Jose St. and demolished them, however, we would do the same thing if we played them as well. If we would have played to division 1AA teams in the first week and destroyed them, posters on here would have been saying either how great LSU is or how come LSU doesn't play better teams. So, I believe we played two decent teams so far. USC struggled against one good team that should have won that game. So, with that being said, I think LSU chances are pretty good.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:42 am to topgun1676
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I think we can still hold our own against USC.
Agreed. I think we would fare well, but I don't think we could win.
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So, I believe we played two decent teams so far.
Agreed. But I think, regardless of the teams USC plays this season, they would still win a head-to-head match up. None of this is to detract from LSU's greatness. Really. I just don't see us winning a match-up this year.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:48 am to brdcstr
brdcstr thats pretty big talk from a USC fan, being his team had TROUBLE beating a team (OSU) that the last 2 times it played a sec Conference team got demolished( LSU 38 OSU 24 ) (Fla 41 OSU 14)
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:48 am to reagancajun
ReaganCajun, I do believe that UW is going to hold their own against USC. I can still see USC struggle with this team. Though, USC has more talent, I believe that Sark has had this game circled for a long time. Not to mention, USC has to travel to Seattle for this game. It seems like the fans will be ready as well. We sure weren't able to tell that this team went 0-12 last year with the amount of fans that showed up against LSU. Also in 2007, UW lost by less than 10 points and USC had a much better team that year. With a much improved offense/defense and the return of Jake Locker and Chris Polk, I believe this game will be a lot closer than expected.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:48 am to reagancajun
i agree with TopGun. USC is NOT the juggernaut everyone makes them out to be.
Freshman QB..... senior running back (from River Ridge in case anyone didn't know) but he fumbles....A LOT. People pick on Trindon or whatever the case may be as far as fumbling..... do a little more research.
USC lost both their offensive and defensive coodinators.... we lost just our defensive coordinator and look how our season was last year. I think Washington has a good chance of beating them.
But just to hypothesize..... currently, we would beat USC.
Freshman QB..... senior running back (from River Ridge in case anyone didn't know) but he fumbles....A LOT. People pick on Trindon or whatever the case may be as far as fumbling..... do a little more research.
USC lost both their offensive and defensive coodinators.... we lost just our defensive coordinator and look how our season was last year. I think Washington has a good chance of beating them.
But just to hypothesize..... currently, we would beat USC.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:52 am to topgun1676
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ReaganCajun, I do believe that UW is going to hold their own against USC.
Oh, no, I absolutely agree with you. I think Washington is a very good team, and I do hope they fare well this season. They seem like pretty classy people. I just think LSU wouldn't quite beat USC this year. But I've been wrong before. I hope I would be wrong about this one, too.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:53 am to la_birdman
La_Birdman, I'm not sure who would win, however, I do believe we match up well with the Trojans. U
USC-Freshmen Quarterback
RB-Joe Mcknight and Co.
Defense-Replaced 8 starters from last year
LSU-Sophomore Quarterback
RB-Keiland/Scott and Co
WR-Lafell/TT/RJ/RR
Defense-Still rebuilding from last year
I'm know I don't quite have all the information on the Trojans offense or defense, but I do believe we still matchup with them.
USC-Freshmen Quarterback
RB-Joe Mcknight and Co.
Defense-Replaced 8 starters from last year
LSU-Sophomore Quarterback
RB-Keiland/Scott and Co
WR-Lafell/TT/RJ/RR
Defense-Still rebuilding from last year
I'm know I don't quite have all the information on the Trojans offense or defense, but I do believe we still matchup with them.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 1:35 am to Purple N Gold Blood
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brdcstr thats pretty big talk from a USC fan, being his team had TROUBLE beating a team (OSU) that the last 2 times it played a sec Conference team got demolished( LSU 38 OSU 24 ) (Fla 41 OSU 14)
You didn't play them in their house like we did, either. When they came to LA, they were blown out WORSE than what LSU did to them.
Matter of fact, OSU scored less in two games on USC's defense than they did in one game against your swiss cheese defense.
Do you guys even remember what a good defense looks like?
If not, check out USC or Sabans defenses.
You remember him, don't cha?
BTW, all this blow-hard talk about wanting to play a quality OOC program goes up in smoke when you claimed you wanted to upgrade your OOC before last season....so you called UW (who hasn't had a winning season since 2002.
Matter of fact, when the NCAA added a 12th game, what did we see LSU do?
Lock up Too-Lame into a 10 year contract.
BTW, speaking of struggling...wasn't that LSWho I saw locked in a one score 'battle' in the 4th qtr agaisnt previously winless UW and pitiful Vandy at home?
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 1:41 am
Posted on 9/17/09 at 1:39 am to brdcstr
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USC has enough 5 loss OOC teams (Notre Dame) on our OOC schedule.
We generally look for upper tier teams for the top OOC game.
One off year in a stretch that no other team outside of USC (and possibly UF) and that defines LSU. Try not to be too hackish now.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 2:10 am to brdcstr
brdcstr try and hide it all you want, your team still STRUGGLED to beat a OSU team that almost went into overtime vs NAVY 
And BTW your conference is too much of a pussy to have a championship game!!! 
your conference is a bunch of chicken shits , maybe you all are afraid to hurt each other at seasons end.......
And BTW your conference is too much of a pussy to have a championship game!!! your conference is a bunch of chicken shits , maybe you all are afraid to hurt each other at seasons end....... Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:39 am to Purple N Gold Blood
P&GBlood=post full of FAIL.
The NCAA says 10 team conferences will not have a Championship game. Instead, all PAC 10 teams play EVERYONE in conference, which actually makes it TOUHGER to get to the BCS games as it adds up to more losses for the conference overall.
Our conference is 1-1 against the SEC this season, with even the lowly bRuins going into Knoxville and getting a win in hostile territory.
You know how LSU struggled to contain UW, allowing nearly 500yds of offense and escaping with an 8 point win in Seattle.
Also, the transitive property doesn't really work in college football, but it is kinda funny how some LSU fans are wagering their Tiger-egos on how UW does against USC as opposed to how LSU did.
The NCAA says 10 team conferences will not have a Championship game. Instead, all PAC 10 teams play EVERYONE in conference, which actually makes it TOUHGER to get to the BCS games as it adds up to more losses for the conference overall.
Our conference is 1-1 against the SEC this season, with even the lowly bRuins going into Knoxville and getting a win in hostile territory.
You know how LSU struggled to contain UW, allowing nearly 500yds of offense and escaping with an 8 point win in Seattle.
Also, the transitive property doesn't really work in college football, but it is kinda funny how some LSU fans are wagering their Tiger-egos on how UW does against USC as opposed to how LSU did.
Posted on 9/17/09 at 5:12 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Also, the transitive property doesn't really work in college football, but it is kinda funny how some LSU fans are wagering their Tiger-egos on how UW does against USC as opposed to how LSU did.
In their defense (as a fellow arguer of how the transitive property doesn't really work), it will provide the first indication of UW is a good team or not.
And it matters because accurate or not, posters like brdcstr will find excuses to marginalize it if UW plays you close, but will turn around and never let it go if you guys blow that game wide open.
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Instead, all PAC 10 teams play EVERYONE in conference, which actually makes it TOUHGER to get to the BCS games as it adds up to more losses for the conference overall.
While I do respect and prefer the Pac-10 system as a way to pick a champion, to claim that it is tougher is silly. Take it from LSU's perspective....so because you have to play everyone once (most of which won't be ranked at season's end or will be 15+), it is harder than having to play UF twice in order to win the conference?
Posted on 9/17/09 at 5:29 am to Volvagia
quote:I don't think LSU will have to worry about it this season, V.
Take it from LSU's perspective....so because you have to play everyone once (most of which won't be ranked at season's end or will be 15+), it is harder than having to play UF twice in order to win the conference?
But I will grant you that LSU has a much more difficult schedule than Florida. Theirs is a joke. In the PAC 10, most teams schedule at least 2 good OOC games (vs BCS or Mtn West) and then have to play each team in the conference. Also, most PAC 10 teams don't play 8 home games like the SEC teams do. I know some people in the SEC undervalue home field advantage, but in my opinion, in certain venues, it is worth more than the 3 points Sagarin credits it with.
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