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re: LSU moves up one spot to # 12 in AP poll

Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:11 pm to
So Washington should be punished because of things from last year. That makes zero sense.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18147 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Most of the people that make up the playoff committee probably voted on the polls at one point or another.

sure, and they probably realize how little effort they put into it. The playoff committee is a far more serious, time-intensive, analytical undertaking. Much like the March Madness committee.

You think the March Madness committee looks at voter polls too?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:13 pm to
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I'd bet my house that the playoff committee doesn't give one ounce of credibility to some silly media voter poll or "coach's" (read: Grad Assistant) poll.

Polls are a relic from the past. They were silly then, and they're silly and (thankfully) irrelevant now.


The CFP rankings are always very close to the polls when they come out every year. The polls at midseason and at the end are driven by the preseason polls in terms of the order of teams with the same records, as two teams with the same record at any given time during the season will usually be ranked in the same order relative to each other that they were in the preseason. Preseason polls are very much influenced by the preseason picks of the media, and usually come out almost identical to the composite of preseason publication rankings.

Being picked high in offseason/preseason predictions = being ranked high in preseason polls = remaining ranked high in the polls relative to other teams with your same record throughout the season = being ranked high in the CFP rankings relative to teams with your same record.

If Team A and Team B are exactly the same team, play exactly the same schedule and produce exactly the same results, and if the composite of offseason media picks had Team A picked higher than Team B, there's about a 80% or more chance Team A will be ranked ahead of Team B in the CFP rankings.

Thinking that polls or even preseason predictions by media are irrelevant requires ignoring an awful lot of historical data that very strongly suggest otherwise.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:15 pm to
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they probably realize how little effort they put into it. The playoff committee is a far more serious, time-intensive, analytical undertaking.


Then why are they always almost identical to each other in their results?
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:15 pm to
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sure, and they probably realize how little effort they put into it. The playoff committee is a far more serious, time-intensive, analytical undertaking. Much like the March Madness committee.

Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:22 pm to
I'm just loling that tOSU got first place votes. They looked awful damn near the whole game. FSU and Bama both looked WORLDS better. Clemson looked much better. Michigan looked better overall. Oklahoma looked better as well. shite will work itself out, though.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56426 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:24 pm to
1 spot a week for 13 weeks...hell yeah, that is the binder plan.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:04 pm to
sounds about right. maybe a spot higher or so, but 12 seems right.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
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4792 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:12 pm to
Why is FLORIDA even ranked they looked terrible on offense..
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10911 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:16 pm to
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So Washington should be punished because of things from last year. That makes zero sense.
It makes zero sense because it came from your mind, not mine. I never said they should be punished. I said we're better than Washington and could beat them. I still believe that. Washington wouldn't score more than 17 points on us without a turnover or huge special teams play.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10911 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Why is FLORIDA even ranked
Name
Posted by gettin there
La.
Member since Sep 2016
355 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:20 pm to
We flip-flopped with allbarn--------couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of turds.......
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14560 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:16 pm to
I am thinking that the media doesn't realize that a huge amount of snaps came from true freshman and second string players. Granted, they were probably fired up for a chance to shine.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19535 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:27 pm to
None of the "experts" found LSU's win to be impressive. Douchebag David Pollack was hacking about it today.
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