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re: LSU is ELITE, and we need elite results. These are the facts.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:06 pm to DrSteveBrule
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:06 pm to DrSteveBrule
quote:you mean like most of TAFs donors?
My favorite is these old as frick douchebags acting like because they lived through the 90s as an adult,
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:06 pm to Beetlejuice
quote:
Jimbo was not a strategy; it was purely reactionary. LSU was perfectly happy with Les Miles until the losing streak.
I agree with this, but like I said in the OP, Les must compete for championship next year, and the AD better be ready for it if he doesn't.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:07 pm to rintintin
LSU isn't elite - Miles is elite.
Saban had ONE season with more than 10 wins in 5 years. Miles had FIVE seasons with more than 10 wins in 11 years.
Saban AVERAGED 3.2 losses while at LSU. People want to run Miles out of town for 3 losses.
People bitch about Miles' record "lately" - in the past 5 years he is 49-15. In Saban's 5 years he was 48-16.
LSU fans are delirious.
quote:
-LSU was nothing before Saban, so we should be thankful for what Miles has been able to accomplish and sustain
Saban had ONE season with more than 10 wins in 5 years. Miles had FIVE seasons with more than 10 wins in 11 years.
Saban AVERAGED 3.2 losses while at LSU. People want to run Miles out of town for 3 losses.
People bitch about Miles' record "lately" - in the past 5 years he is 49-15. In Saban's 5 years he was 48-16.
LSU fans are delirious.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:10 pm to 911Moto
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Saban had ONE season with more than 10 wins in 5 years. Miles had FIVE seasons with more than 10 wins in 11 years.
Don't be so shortsighted. Saban built the program to where it is. He brought it out of the dark ages. Miles has somewhat sustained that.
Comparing anything Saban did here to Miles is ridiculous. The 2 walked into completely different scenarios.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:12 pm to rintintin
I love all these "facts" threads that are opinions
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:12 pm to 911Moto
What was his record his first five years here?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:13 pm to rintintin
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Miles has somewhat sustained that.
Like I said - DELIRIOUS.
Mile's WORST years are better than Saban's tenure here, but Miles has "somewhat" sustained it?
DELIRIOUS.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to chunk
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What was his record his first five years here?
51-15.
In other words, if we win the bowl game and McNeese wasn't cancelled, IDENTICAL record the first 5 years and last 5 years.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:15 pm to rintintin
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agree with this, but like I said in the OP, Les must compete for championship next year, and the AD better be ready for it if he doesn't.
Perfectly fair expectation if that is the expectation of the job. I won't argue against that expectation because its pretty clear that our fanbase expects a championship.
However, discovering the guy who will do that doesn't start when the season falls apart. It has to start when LSU has leverage on its side, not panic.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:18 pm to 911Moto
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Saban AVERAGED 3.2 losses while at LSU. People want to run Miles out of town for 3 losses.
It's ok to lose.
It's not ok to get embarrassed and look incompetent year after year. He is paid too much money for that.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:19 pm to 911Moto
quote:You are a delusional frick. I bet you congratulate your kids for making C's. Loser.
911Moto
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:22 pm to 911Moto
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Like I said - DELIRIOUS.
Mile's WORST years are better than Saban's tenure here, but Miles has "somewhat" sustained it?
DELIRIOUS.
Again, you can't compare what Saban did here with what Miles has done. Saban took over a dwindling program.
Miles was handed the keys to a top program, that now has the resources to consistently be elite. Saban never had that.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:24 pm to Beetlejuice
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However, discovering the guy who will do that doesn't start when the season falls apart. It has to start when LSU has leverage on its side, not panic.
I agree. Like I said, Alleva better be ready next season if Miles squanders it. What happened these past few weeks was an embarrassment.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:27 pm to Rico Tubbs
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It's not ok to get embarrassed and look incompetent year after year. He is paid too much money for that.
This is something that also needs to be taken into consideration. Are the coaches utilizing talent properly? Are they putting our team in the best position to win week in and week out?
It's hard to say yes.
Having an offense ranked 94th or worse 6 of the last 7 seasons is truly inexcusable.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:31 pm to rintintin
Ok. Last 5 years. Unless you can see the future
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:39 pm to rintintin
May be you are over estimating LSU's status?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:45 pm to Cheupique
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May be you are over estimating LSU's status?
Not at all, and your statement perfectly portrays the mindset of many. The we're not good enough to deserve greatness attitude.
We have everything that those elite programs have. We just need to utilize it properly.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:58 pm to 911Moto
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Saban had ONE season with more than 10 wins in 5 years. Miles had FIVE seasons with more than 10 wins in 11 years.
Saban AVERAGED 3.2 losses while at LSU. People want to run Miles out of town for 3 losses.
People bitch about Miles' record "lately" - in the past 5 years he is 49-15. In Saban's 5 years he was 48-16.
LSU fans are delirious.
In general, I try not to judge posters too harshly. We're all LSU fans. However,occassionally I stumble across a post so chock full of ignorance that it demands a response. This is one of them.
(1) First, your claims aren't even factually accurate. Saban had two ten win seasons at LSU, not one. The Tigers won thirteen games in 2003 and ten in 2001;
(2) Your argument totally disregards the fact that college football scheduling was in flux during Saban's tenure. The twelve game regular season had not been fully instituted. In 2000, 2001, and 2004, LSU only played 11 games. Adding some overmatched cupcake OOC opponent to the schedule in 2004 likely would have given Saban THREE ten win seasons out of five, a ratio higher than that you cite for Miles;
(3) In five years, Saban secured as many championships as Miles won in twice that time;
(4) Your most conspicuous failing is that you totally disregard historical context. Saban took over an irrelevant program coming off back to back losing campaigns, including a three win season (one win in the SEC), that was twelve years removed from its last SECC and forty years removed from its last NC. By contrast, Miles inherited a program two years removed from an NC and coming off a 9 win season (6-2 in the SEC). These are not even remotely equivalent positions.
If you are going to condemn others as being delusional, you should ensure your own arguments are accurate and intellectually honest.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:03 pm to rintintin
quote:I didn't like this. They are beatable with the right offense.
-LSU football historically has been good but not great. Striving to be like the Bama's of the world is unrealistic.
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