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re: LSU Hoops: Johnson and Temple relationship article
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:00 pm to Skillet
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:00 pm to Skillet
quote:
I've always wondered why Randy Livingston is not a member of the LSU coaching staff.
Honestly if Randy wants to stay on the NBA coaching path he should stay in Idaho. SI was just giving him props in the Antoine Walker article this week.
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:03 pm to T
ok, i guess you didn't see the quote where the guy was claiming temple told him the only reason johnson hasn't been fired is because he's black. had he been white, he'd be fired.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:10 pm to dos crystal
Trent isn't still here cause he's black, that's just stupid and Temple knows it
Big picture thinking here:
Alleva and TJ know what Temple is about. They want to build a program without his kind of influence. I get it and it's admirable.
If it works, great. If not, well it could actually make the program worse. Now I don't disagree with wanting to do it the right way, just don't know if it's possible in this day and age
Big picture thinking here:
Alleva and TJ know what Temple is about. They want to build a program without his kind of influence. I get it and it's admirable.
If it works, great. If not, well it could actually make the program worse. Now I don't disagree with wanting to do it the right way, just don't know if it's possible in this day and age
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:18 pm to dos crystal
quote:
ok, i guess you didn't see the quote where the guy was claiming temple told him the only reason johnson hasn't been fired is because he's black. had he been white, he'd be fired.
and you replied to him asking how brady lasted 10 years. i answered your question. you shouldn't have brought up brady, because as bad as brady was he never had 3 straight years as bad as these past 3. he'd do just enough to save his job.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:22 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:
Alleva and TJ know what Temple is about. They want to build a program without his kind of influence.
What is Temple about?
What is "his kind of influence?"
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:25 pm to GeismarGeauxer
quote:
What is Temple about?
power/control/ego/being viewed as the man
quote:
What is "his kind of influence?"
this kid gets a schooly, this one doesn't....It is interesting that Temple brought all "his" guys around but couldn't get a Monroe or such to even sniff the place
Don't get me wrong, I've been all over TJ all year
but Temple isn't the fricking AD, shouldn't be the AD and IMO should have ZERO influence on who coaches LSU basketball
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:28 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:
It is interesting that Temple brought all "his" guys around but couldn't get a Monroe or such to even sniff the place
Why is this interesting? The BR guys grew up around Collis and Monroe didn't.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:28 pm to stapuffmarshy
Temple managed to get his kid, his kid's best friend who lived with him, and tyrus thomas (also on their AAU team) to LSU. Tyrus' only other visit was to Va Tech. People act like he was integral in getting so many guys here but Tasmin was on Butch Pierre and D-Mitch had nothing to do with Temple either. His influence, while it helped, is certainly over exaggerated here.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:32 pm to dos crystal
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explain john brady for 10 YEARS. If he said that, he is stupid. i say stupid because he knows better.
Since 2000, Brady never had a string of three straight years without making the NCAA Tournament.
And Brady never had a three-year run as bad as this one since he really got things rolling in 2000 either.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:33 pm to T
quote:
and you replied to him asking how brady lasted 10 years. i answered your question. you shouldn't have brought up brady, because as bad as brady was he never had 3 straight years as bad as these past 3. he'd do just enough to save his job.
yes i should have, brady is white and trent is black. This is the relevance to temples remarks. The white guy didn't get fired either.
If it's based on excuses, then trent has his with the apr situation he inherited.
they both have the same amount of s.e.c. championships as it stands now. The white coach took 8 years to get his. if it's based on race, which temple/the poster is claiming (not me) then the white coach should have been fired before his 8th season. yet the black guy, who has one in his first season should be fired in four? hypocrisy and stupidity of such statements.
i'm not on here saying trent is the savior of the lsu program. i'm saying such comments as he's keeping his job because he's black is stupid. Especially when a white coach got a lot more rope when you consider his off the court problems to go with his on the court lack of performance.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:37 pm to dos crystal
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i'm saying such comments as he's keeping his job because he's black is stupid. Especially when a white coach got a lot more rope when you consider his off the court problems to go with his on the court lack of performance.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:38 pm to dos crystal
How come no one brings up Johnson's attrition like they used to with Brady?
Green
Dotson
Derenbecker
Harris
Graham
Populist
Spencer
Kinsley
Green
Dotson
Derenbecker
Harris
Graham
Populist
Spencer
Kinsley
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:38 pm to dos crystal
quote:
they both have the same amount of s.e.c. championships as it stands now.
2 > 1
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:40 pm to Elleshoe
You're counting walkons as attrition? You are better than that.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:41 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
How come no one brings up Johnson's attrition like they used to with Brady?
Green
Dotson
Derenbecker
Harris
Graham
Populist
Spencer
Kinsley
I agree but it doesn't get talked about because almost all sucked.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:42 pm to Bubba Hotep
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You're counting walkons as attrition? You are better than that.
Pop is the only real walk-on on the list but he was a good player. I guess I get it since he got a scholly at SLU... Kinsley was on scholarship after his first or second season.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:43 pm to dos crystal
you are totally confused and have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:44 pm to dos crystal
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he was instrumental in getting his aau talent here. outside of baton rouge, he had nothing.
Exactly, and how often do you think you are going to get a bonanza of local talent like the 2006 team had? Who are the local kids since Taz that every school was recruiting? Marcus Thorton had to go to junior college, and there hasn't been anyone close to his level since.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:44 pm to T
+1
He really doesn't.
He really doesn't.
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:46 pm to Godfather1
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Temple is pissed off that TJ won't kiss his ring. And when I say "ring", I'm being nice.
This + 1000.
Also, Trent is not going to do Anything under the table or push the outer edge of the envelope. Temple has been rumored to have his hand out in other business dealings (BREC) and could be why the relationship was strained from day one. This rift is not a new revelation by any means.
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