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re: LSU Compared to Other Top Programs in the Les Miles Era
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:10 am to omegaman66
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:10 am to omegaman66
bama wouldn't even had been in that game had dumbass OSU decided to forfiet last years bowl instead of this years. would've been Ohio St/Notre Dame
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:12 am to BearTiger
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Well Captain, in college football rankings matter more than any other sport.
except AP isnt used in the BCS...which determines the actual championship.
Logic fail. but good try....
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:14 am to Beef Supreme
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Get your pencil and scratch sheet out and figure it out, Einstein.
he could have just as easily applied a 1 for a first place finish, 2 for second, etc...
THEN averaged...and got the same result with less steps.
I'm glad though that you and the rest of the rantards are too stupid to recognize little details. It's probably why you think Less is great.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:23 am to CptBengal
quote:
he could have just as easily applied a 1 for a first place finish, 2 for second, etc...
THEN averaged...and got the same result with less steps.
I'm glad though that you and the rest of the rantards are too stupid to recognize little details. It's probably why you think Less is great.
Well since you're seeeaaauuuxxxx good at the details please tell me how your system accounts for unranked years.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:29 am to CptBengal
quote:
CptBengal
The public school is strong in you.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:33 am to Beef Supreme
Average AP finish during Miles era is 9.875 if you give LSU the benefit of finishing 28 in 2008. The AP only lists top 25, and LSU was third in the "others receiving votes" category.
14 - 2012
2
8
17
28*
1
3
6 -2005
Total = 79/8years = 9.875
All the numbers aside, people outside our program would love 80% winning percentage and a national championship. But seeing the way we lose games and how we are consistently outcoached in BIG games (not talking about Moo State tyoes), then it shows that 2011 is as high as we will get under Miles. We won it all in 2007 on a freak season (2 losses) and were very close last year. But I would consistently expect anywhere from 9-11 regular season wins under Miles, and maybe an SEC championship sprinkled in. Sadly, I don't see us winning another championship with him here, unless it is a year where we back into the game (2007).
14 - 2012
2
8
17
28*
1
3
6 -2005
Total = 79/8years = 9.875
All the numbers aside, people outside our program would love 80% winning percentage and a national championship. But seeing the way we lose games and how we are consistently outcoached in BIG games (not talking about Moo State tyoes), then it shows that 2011 is as high as we will get under Miles. We won it all in 2007 on a freak season (2 losses) and were very close last year. But I would consistently expect anywhere from 9-11 regular season wins under Miles, and maybe an SEC championship sprinkled in. Sadly, I don't see us winning another championship with him here, unless it is a year where we back into the game (2007).
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:38 am to tigerfoot
Top 5 finishes are nice.
Having someone in your division win it's third title in four years sucks.
Having someone in your division win it's third title in four years sucks.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:43 am to Beef Supreme
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Well since you're seeeaaauuuxxxx good at the details please tell me how your system accounts for unranked years.
If every team has 1 unranked year, as the OP reports...its a toss aside with the sum being divided by 1 greater than the number of rankings. This isn't difficult.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:43 am to theunknownknight
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I love the compare a COACH'S record to other TEAM threads
Compare him to other coaches. His overall is damn good even when you include the OSU records (a program that was in total shambles when Miles arrived).
Put Miles' SEC record up against any other SEC coach and he's in rarified air. He might not be able to do it another 7 years but up to now, you simply cannot argue with his results from a W-L standpoint
(well,you can, but it's lacking any real substance)
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:46 am to Beef Supreme
quote:
CptBengal
The public school is strong in you.
You really are too stupid to realize my method provides a different, yet similar ranking method involving less work...dear god. Where did you go to school, i would like to avoid sending children there based on your obvious mathematics failures.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:48 am to CptBengal
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If every team has 1 unranked year, as the OP reports...its a toss aside with the sum being divided by 1 greater than the number of rankings. This isn't difficult.
You're still doing so great with details. He said "at least 1" unranked year. So what to do when one team has 2 or 3 and the other 1?
It's ok you'd still get a passing grade at woodlawn.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:49 am to CptBengal
Moral of the story is quit calling people stupid, slow down, really think about the equation, and then call yourself stupid.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:59 am to Beef Supreme
quote:
He said "at least 1" unranked year. So what to do when one team has 2 or 3 and the other 1?
decrease the denominator by the extra numbers of unranked years.
it's funny, you appear to believe there is 1 equation that produces series results. In fact of matter there are many which can produce the same ordered results.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 12:19 pm to Beef Supreme
quote:
Moral of the story is quit calling people stupid, slow down, really think about the equation, and then call yourself stupid.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 12:30 pm to BearTiger
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I just wanted to give some perspective about how the program has fared since he became head coach compared to the other top programs in the country
Those who have a want to pound on Miles at every L or close win, are not concerned bout looking at the man's 8 yrs here in any kind of "perspective".
If they did, they wouldn't pound 24/7 on the very most successful HC in LSU history as well as one of the very most successful coaches in the BCS/SEC since 05.
Anyone not undergoing college football mental health treatment of some kind knows LSU football is easily a Top 3 to 5 program overall under Miles.
Spoiled/entitled fans don't care bout "perspective". They only care bout being #1 and if we not #1, they gonna bitch bout it till the cows come home.
If you don't think so, review the threads here started by the same guys from 1-10-11 to now cause we finished #2 in 2011.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:02 pm to CptBengal
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decrease the denominator by the extra numbers of unranked years. it's funny, you appear to believe there is 1 equation that produces series results. In fact of matter there are many which can produce the same ordered results.
Stop reaching and admit you were wrong. Don't change the argument to prove a point. You originally said subtracting by 25 was an extra uncessary step b/c you think you could get the same result without extra steps. Now you'll have multiple denominators depending on the team (extra steps) and you've changed your argument to "there's more than 1 equation!". That wasn't the point. The point was you're a moron.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:02 pm to Beef Supreme
also... "in fact of matter". Give me my tax dollars back.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:36 pm to Beef Supreme
quote:I sure hate to see Cpt pwned.
Moral of the story is quit calling people stupid, slow down, really think about the equation, and then call yourself stupid.
I giggled.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 2:11 pm to CptBengal
quote:
except AP isnt used in the BCS...which determines the actual championship.
Logic fail. but good try....
Well, there are no BCS rankings that come out after the bowl games, so I didn't use those for my formula. There also are no Harris Poll rankings following the bowl games, so I didn't use that one either.
There are coaches poll rankings following the bowl games, but we all know that coaches don't watch many other teams play and usually get their sid's to fill out the ballot for them.
The AP ranking post bowls is typically the most accurate ranking following bowl season, which is why I used it in my analysis.
Also, I never said the AP ranking was part of the BCS.
It is pretty curious that you can argue math formula, poll selected for the criteria, etc..., but have no argument for the actual facts shown other than calling everyone stupid for thinking "less is great."
Posted on 1/9/13 at 2:37 pm to BearTiger
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1. Ohio St - AAFR = 6.38, 0 BCSNC, 6 T5, 7 T10, 5 CC
2. LSU - AAFR = 8.63, 1 BCSNC, 3 T5, 5 T10, 2 CC
3. Alabama - AAFR = 8.88,3 BCSNC,3 T5,5 T10,2 CC
This is very disingenuous. What you should be looking at it LSU's performace since Nick Saban started his tenure at Alabama. I bet it will look really bad for Miles.
I see Saban and Bama solely standing in the way of LSU winning more championships. They will be a huge hurdle going forward.
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