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LSU & Bama Experience - Perspective

Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Jeffreylebowski
bfegypt
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:24 pm
Alabama started about 12 Seniors last night. LSU started about 3. This makes a huge difference. It seems like they are always full of seniors but that's another subject. LSU was playing an experienced, talented team, on the road. LSUs roster is young and will only get better. Will still have to figure out a different offensive approach, but that's also another subject.

If LSU can go 10-1 with this young of a roster it will be a major accomplishment.
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2400 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:25 pm to
They have seniors because they don't all leave early
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:26 pm to
Kendell Beckwith, Tre White, Jerald Hawkins, and Ethan Pocic will have a lot to say about how far this team goes next year.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:27 pm to
well dont you know that accordingto our fan base 10-1 means you are mediocre
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79140 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:27 pm to
think 3 of those guys will go.

add in departures from debo jones and someone else i'm missing as well.

insert a true freshmen starter for each LB...andddddd we're young again.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58780 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:28 pm to
There's always next year.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:28 pm to
we were picked to finish 4th!!!!!!
Posted by Jeffreylebowski
bfegypt
Member since Dec 2012
368 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:28 pm to
I think so. People forget that age plays a big difference. A five start 21 year old can whip a five star 18-19 year old. That's what happened last night in trenches. WC and MT were getting worked by those older Bama d tackles.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:35 pm to
They have juniors that stick around because they have faith in their coaches and believe that they have a great chance to win it all if they come back whereas ours seem ready to just move on from the same ol' same ol'. They also know by returning they will further improve through coaching and it will improve their draft stock. Either Miles is not emphasizing this enough or the players don't believe it. Either way it's been a constant problem with this program and I doubt it changes this year.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3902 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 3:43 pm to
We're we ever old in the past 5 years? Will we ever get old? That's not an excuse. You have 3 years with these kids. Start them young get them experience and play the hand you are dealt.
Posted by RWS
Elberta, AL
Member since Nov 2010
3 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Alabama started about 12 Seniors last night. LSU started about 3. This makes a huge difference. It seems like they are always full of seniors but that's another subject. LSU was playing an experienced, talented team, on the road. LSUs roster is young and will only get better. Will still have to figure out a different offensive approach, but that's also another subject.

If LSU can go 10-1 with this young of a roster it will be a major accomplishment.

Alabama also replaced 10 starters on offense this year, and is missing at least one WR that was going to be a starter. There are three senior starters on offense: one transferred to Alabama in the Spring (Mullaney), one was a JUCO transfer last season (Jackson), and one transferred to Alabama before last season (Coker). They also rotated in plenty of second string guys in the front 7 the whole game; none of which are seniors. Just saying, that perhaps the "experienced" statement should come with an asterisks.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:16 pm to
That is still a realistic possibility.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5529 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:17 pm to
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There's always next year.


Thank you, how many "YEARS" in a row will he continue to hear this!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41922 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:19 pm to
The keep guys 4-5 years because pay is just as good as NFL
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Alabama also replaced 10 starters on offense this year, and is missing at least one WR that was going to be a starter. There are three senior starters on offense: one transferred to Alabama in the Spring (Mullaney), one was a JUCO transfer last season (Jackson), and one transferred to Alabama before last season (Coker). They also rotated in plenty of second string guys in the front 7 the whole game; none of which are seniors.


Some people will tell themselves anything to keep from having to see the real problem which is our coach that does just enough to not get fired.
Posted by SlickG
Member since Nov 2015
16 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:08 pm to
I agree with your post. I think it was big not having our SR 300 lb TE to help block those guys too. Anyway, I feel our early departures vs. those at Bama is certainly a worthy subject of discussion. I firmly believe that if Reggie Ragland & A'Shawn Robinson played for LSU, they would have gone pro last year.

I don't know if it is Saban brainwashing them or their player salary at Bama that keeps them there, or both. Or is it a problem on our end, that the players don't have as much confidence or trust in Miles. Or maybe it's just grown to be the culture of our program (although we seemed to have a few more guys stick around this year). You would think however, that a coaching staff that does so well in recruiting the high school kids could recruit our guys to stay too.

Kendall Beckwith's decision is huge for LSU. If he leaves, we may be in trouble next year on D. He would really hurt LSU by leaving early. I just don't see Saban "allowing" a player like that to leave early.

If we can get Beckwith and at least Pocic or Big Hawk to come back next year, we should have a decent chance against Bama. They will have great starters again next year, but not the ridiculous depth on the defensive front 7. I think we could see Smart and/or Kiffin move on after this year as well.
Posted by PlaylikeJeter
Member since Oct 2013
763 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:56 pm to
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I agree with your post. I think it was big not having our SR 300 lb TE to help block those guys too.


The paper Saturday had the ala roster, their DE's or over 300 and all the LB's were bigger the Beckwith. He wouldn't have helped with or Coaches offensive philosophy.
Posted by RWS
Elberta, AL
Member since Nov 2010
3 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:16 pm to
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I firmly believe that if Reggie Ragland & A'Shawn Robinson played for LSU, they would have gone pro last year.

I don't know if it is Saban brainwashing them or their player salary at Bama that keeps them there, or both.

Last season was Ragland's first as a starter, and he was the weakside LB. He slid over to MLB this season and now makes defensive calls whereas that was Trey DePriest last year. He probably wouldn't have gone in the first two rounds after last year. He hadn't blown up like he has this season, but you could pretty much tell it was coming. He actually had enough sense to come back and make himself some money down the road.

Robinson was a sophomore last year, so he couldn't come out. He can (and probably will) this year.

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You would think however, that a coaching staff that does so well in recruiting the high school kids could recruit our guys to stay too.

It just doesn't work that way anymore. Some players at places like Alabama and LSU are typically better suited for the NFL, and there is no convincing them to stay. For example, Fournette will leave early when he is able as will Henry. It's always been a given that the really talented guys will go. However, you have a layer of guys under that who are still pretty talented (relative to college ball), and we all know they probably won't be superstars their rookie years and won't go in the 1st or 2nd rounds, but they go anyway just so they can get paid something. It's better than playing for free.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:39 pm to
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They have seniors because they don't all leave early and take a pay cut.


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