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re: LSU All-time basketball team vs. anyone else's
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:12 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:12 pm to BayouBengals03
Interesting that we have had as many superstars as anyone really.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 2:15 pm to BayouBengals03
LSU starting 5 would beat or compete with any other starting 5 in history...the problem would be if any of them got tired or in foul trouble- LSU's bench could not compete with a lot of other teams & it would be their downfall...
Posted on 1/25/09 at 3:30 pm to Hardwood Tiger
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AI
Mourning
Mutumbo
Ewing
Jaren Jackson
Othella Harrington
Iverson...
Posted on 1/25/09 at 3:33 pm to lukestar
no one could beat our top 5 ever.
shaq alone would be able to dominate most centers all time.
shaq alone would be able to dominate most centers all time.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 4:10 pm to PiscesTiger
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Interesting that we have had as many superstars as anyone really.
Did you even look at the UNC list I posted? They have 3X or more of the "superstars" that LSU has produced. The NBA talent that has come out of that school is sick.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 4:16 pm to VABuckeye
Yeah, maybe so, but our 5 starters would beat anybody's. Switch Pettit for Brandon Bass or Stromile and switch Macklin for Blanton or Tyrus and I think those five would beat any school's team of 5 ever.
How are you going to stop Pistol and Chris Jackson at the same time with Shaq, Tyrus, and Ricky Blanton inside? Ain't gonna happen. Chris and Pete could score 100 by themselves. Pete wouldn't even bother driving when he can just drill 3's and lob to Shaq all night.
Shaq would end up breaking Kareems arms.
How are you going to stop Pistol and Chris Jackson at the same time with Shaq, Tyrus, and Ricky Blanton inside? Ain't gonna happen. Chris and Pete could score 100 by themselves. Pete wouldn't even bother driving when he can just drill 3's and lob to Shaq all night.
Shaq would end up breaking Kareems arms.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 4:37 pm to LockdownDefense
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Yeah, maybe so, but our 5 starters would beat anybody's. Switch Pettit for Brandon Bass or Stromile and switch Macklin for Blanton or Tyrus and I think those five would beat any school's team of 5 ever.
How are you going to stop Pistol and Chris Jackson at the same time with Shaq, Tyrus, and Ricky Blanton inside? Ain't gonna happen. Chris and Pete could score 100 by themselves. Pete wouldn't even bother driving when he can just drill 3's and lob to Shaq all night.
Shaq would end up breaking Kareems arms.
I think you're wearing the LSU glasses. It's not a maybe that UNC would be 3X deeper. It's an absolute fact.
Now the LSU starting 5 would be formidable but Jordan is one of the best defenders of all-time and there ain't no way that Maravich or Jackson could check Jordan. They weren't known for their defense. Additionally you might want to look up how Walter Davis did in the NBA.
Walter Davis 18.9 ppg over a 15 year NBA career
Here's what I'd run.
MJ at point. Would dominate Chris Jackson on the defensive and offensive end.
Vince Carter on Maravich. As great as The Pistol was he never had to face a defender with the size and quickness of Vince Carter. Defensively Pete would be at a huge disadvantage.
Rasheed Wallace on Shaq. They've matched up many times and Rasheed plays Shaq extremely tough. He also takes him away from the middle on defense and opens up the lane.
From there on you can take your pick from Cunningham, Daugherty, Jamison, Perkins, Worthy, Stackhouse, etc, etc, etc, etc. to finish out the UNC lineup.
No matter what the bias it's a game I'd pay to see for sure. It would be like an All-Star game on steroids.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:00 pm to coachLSU
VABuckeye:
*I said starting 5.
I am aware of more depth by UNC and UCLA. Make them pick 5 of there best and keep them on the floor and it's a different story. Advantage - LSU
MJ @ UNC wasn't half the scoring machine that Pistol or CJ were at LSU. MJ wasn't that great of a defender in college either. I want to say that I am the biggest Jordan fan you'll ever meet also. He wasn't MJ as we all know him while at UNC though. Both Jordan and Vince Carter would have a tough time driving the lane with Tyrus inside and Shaq right behind him. Did you ever see the game when Vince played for the Raptors and attempted to dunk on Shaq? Vince had to leave the game because Shaq threw him to the floor on a block.
Pete would have Vinces tongue hanging out by the half. If not from fatigue then from the sheer awe Vince would have at Pete's shooting ability and flashy alley-oops which Shaq would catch and break Rasheed's arms.
*college rasheed vs college shaq
I'm comparing players based on who they were while in college. Not college vs pro.
*I said starting 5.
I am aware of more depth by UNC and UCLA. Make them pick 5 of there best and keep them on the floor and it's a different story. Advantage - LSU
MJ @ UNC wasn't half the scoring machine that Pistol or CJ were at LSU. MJ wasn't that great of a defender in college either. I want to say that I am the biggest Jordan fan you'll ever meet also. He wasn't MJ as we all know him while at UNC though. Both Jordan and Vince Carter would have a tough time driving the lane with Tyrus inside and Shaq right behind him. Did you ever see the game when Vince played for the Raptors and attempted to dunk on Shaq? Vince had to leave the game because Shaq threw him to the floor on a block.
Pete would have Vinces tongue hanging out by the half. If not from fatigue then from the sheer awe Vince would have at Pete's shooting ability and flashy alley-oops which Shaq would catch and break Rasheed's arms.
*college rasheed vs college shaq
I'm comparing players based on who they were while in college. Not college vs pro.
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Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:01 pm to Bunta
I hate Tim Duncan and I don't know how they would fill out there roster, but Wake Forest with Tim Duncan and Chris Paul would be a pretty good team.
I think the big thing would be what ever teams had a real true big man would probably own. I think people like Duncan, Shag, and Hakeem would be a force with other all time greats.
I say LSU has as much a chance as anyone because of having elite scorers and Shaq. Players like Swift, Thomas, and Davis could play as role players.
I think the big thing would be what ever teams had a real true big man would probably own. I think people like Duncan, Shag, and Hakeem would be a force with other all time greats.
I say LSU has as much a chance as anyone because of having elite scorers and Shaq. Players like Swift, Thomas, and Davis could play as role players.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:03 pm to LockdownDefense
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Posted on 1/25/09 at 5:11 pm to LockdownDefense
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Posted on 1/25/09 at 6:52 pm to VABuckeye
Just the starting five, LSU is better.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 7:25 pm to BayouBengals03
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shaq alone would be able to dominate most centers all time.
wilt chamberlain says frick no to this. wilt and danny manning are legitimately both better than every starter from unc and probably lsu. that is why kansas beats them.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 7:29 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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wilt chamberlain says frick no to this. wilt and danny manning are legitimately both better than every starter from unc and probably lsu. that is why kansas beats them.
ummm, no.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 7:54 pm to LockdownDefense
LockDown,
I'm thinking the player they became, not what they were in college.
BTW, Dean Smith is what held Michael Jordan down in college. It certainly wasn't Michael Jordan or his skill level. Look at what he did as soon as he hit the NBA.
I'd like to see that Maryland team that I listed matched up as well. John Lucas was a GREAT point guard, Len Elmore had the size and skills at center and Buck Williams could rebound with the best. Add in Albert King for scoring along with Len Bias and that is one hell of a basketball team.
I'm thinking the player they became, not what they were in college.
BTW, Dean Smith is what held Michael Jordan down in college. It certainly wasn't Michael Jordan or his skill level. Look at what he did as soon as he hit the NBA.
I'd like to see that Maryland team that I listed matched up as well. John Lucas was a GREAT point guard, Len Elmore had the size and skills at center and Buck Williams could rebound with the best. Add in Albert King for scoring along with Len Bias and that is one hell of a basketball team.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 8:07 pm to VABuckeye
Just 5 on 5, I think LSU is top 3 easy. Bias opinion N0 1. Not enough respect for Bob Pettit. He was/is 6'9". As a PF he was always near the top 3 in scoring and rebounding in the NBA. He was strong down low, but he had a GREAT outside shot. He won several MVPs at the All Star games. He is in the NBA HOF.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 8:41 pm to NewTigerFan09
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shaq alone would be able to dominate most centers all time.
In college, this is just not true. Shaq's not even in the top 5 college centers that ever played. You gotta remember this is not what they turned out to be but how good they were in college. Obviously we know he turned out to be a dominant pro but that's not what this is about. And obviously Shaq was good in college also, but not at the same level as others. And finally, when you do these time comparisons, you have to take the level of each player when he played, which is why Bob Petit is in there for LSU. I'm quite sure most LSU forwards in the last 30 years could outplay Petit, but for me at least, it is irrelevant for this comparison.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 8:42 pm to VABuckeye
Vince Carter would not stop Maravich. The Pistol lit up some of the best defensive NBA guards of his time. Walt Frazier was supoosed to be the best defensive guard in the NBA at the time, and Maravich scored over 30 on him. (Actually, it may have been close to 40).
When THe Pistol played in college, there was no 3 point shot. I read an article several years ago that someone reviewed several game tapes of Maravich, and in those, over 30% of the shots he made were from 3 point range.
Maravich single-handedly took LSU to the Final Four. I really don't think Carter would stop THe Pistol.
When THe Pistol played in college, there was no 3 point shot. I read an article several years ago that someone reviewed several game tapes of Maravich, and in those, over 30% of the shots he made were from 3 point range.
Maravich single-handedly took LSU to the Final Four. I really don't think Carter would stop THe Pistol.
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