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Louis Coleman's draft stock...
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:04 pm
drated in the 14th round last year.
does he make into the single digit rounds?
how early will he go?
does he make into the single digit rounds?
how early will he go?
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Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:05 pm to Lester Earl
Kind of early to tell, but with the way he is pitching I can see a top 10 round pick. He has shown that he can be effective as a starter as well as a closer.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:06 pm to Lester Earl
I think he absolutely goes in the lower rounds. I'm going to say 5th round right now. He stays at about 90, up or down depending on how he feels emotionally, pitch count, etc. but he can run it up to 92-93 with that three quarters throw. He's very accurate and has shown that he can be a starter, middle relief, or closer. The guy has a lot of upside IMO because of that versatility.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:07 pm to Lester Earl
The guy has to be a top 3 round pick imo. Valuable at all starting, mid relief, and closing. In the CWS last year some analysts were saying he would be a first rounder if he came back.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:07 pm to Lester Earl
I say between rounds 5-8 right now, definitely turned out to be a good decision to come back as of now
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:09 pm to josh336
What arm injury did he previously have?
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:09 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I'd say definite single digit round. He's also a more proven commodity. I have a feeling teams will be drafting safer choices earlier in the draft this year and they won't be throwing out as much money as they used to.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:11 pm to josh336
Will never be higher than a 5th round pick....
He doesn't have much a ceiling, what you see is what you get. Not over powering stuff, no exclusive "out" pitch.
Probably will see some AAA and not get much further than that.
He doesn't have much a ceiling, what you see is what you get. Not over powering stuff, no exclusive "out" pitch.
Probably will see some AAA and not get much further than that.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:12 pm to tduecen
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He doesn't have much a ceiling, what you see is what you get. Not over powering stuff, no exclusive "out" pitch.
He has a pretty nasty slider that I would consider his out pitch.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:13 pm to tduecen
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Will never be higher than a 5th round pick....
He doesn't have much a ceiling, what you see is what you get. Not over powering stuff, no exclusive "out" pitch.
You just described Chad Ogea.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:13 pm to mametoo
And Paul Byrd.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:15 pm to Tiger Authority
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And Paul Byrd.
Byrd had overpowering stuff in college. As a frosh he was hitting 94 mph and had a very hard, late breaking curveball. Not much control, but he later found that.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:16 pm to mametoo
Byrd hasn't been able to throw that hard since he left, if he ever was really able to. He found control after his arm problems made him throw 88 consistently.
This post was edited on 3/30/09 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:17 pm to tduecen
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tduecen
Get a clue dude. Did you just look up something a scout said about another prospect and just post it here? I def don't think that is the scouting report on Coleman
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:18 pm to mametoo
I am just not looking through P&G glasses. Baseball is the hardest sport to get to majors in, look at some of best players/pitchers we have produced.
Brett Laxton, Ed Yarnell, Lane Mestepey, Nate Bumstead.
Just don't see Coleman any different than anyone listed. He doesn't have that high ceiling teams are looking for, he is not over powering which teams like, he will get drafted but not in first round, or top 10 as some have said.
Brett Laxton, Ed Yarnell, Lane Mestepey, Nate Bumstead.
Just don't see Coleman any different than anyone listed. He doesn't have that high ceiling teams are looking for, he is not over powering which teams like, he will get drafted but not in first round, or top 10 as some have said.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:18 pm to Tiger Authority
He threw hard in college. He could still throw hard until a few years ago. Not mid 90s, but upper 80s. He's not young anymore.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:20 pm to mametoo
No tmitch, I have seen Coleman pitch a few years at LSU...
You don't need a scouting report if you take off P&G glasses and look at the player not the jersey.
You don't need a scouting report if you take off P&G glasses and look at the player not the jersey.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:21 pm to mametoo
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He threw hard in college. He could still throw hard until a few years ago. Not mid 90s, but upper 80s. He's not young anymore.
My point is that Byrd hasn't had a "dominant out pitch" in ten years IMO. Throwing 92 in the majors isn't an out pitch. His change of speeds has been his biggest weapon along with staying in the zone.
Coleman is in the zone, has a tough delivery to stay with, has shown the improvement each year and versatility that makes him a nice commodity, and does have a great slider set up by a good fastball. He's not a guy that has Renaudo type fastball velocity but he can get it up there when need be.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:22 pm to Lester Earl
Do teams usually take chances on pitchers with control problems in the later rounds if they have upsides with their velocity and a breaking balls?
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:22 pm to tduecen
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Just don't see Coleman any different than anyone listed.
the numbers say different
esp Mesetpay, who when healthy was very good, but never had MLB worthy pitches.
Bumstead? WTF?
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