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re: LOL....Where were all of you a week ago?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:31 am to supatigah
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:31 am to supatigah
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you know that the QBs regressing thing may have something to do with teams getting film on us, charting our tendencies, and building game plans around those tendencies to take them away.
that is ridiculous all teams get film on each other....why isn't every other qb "regressing"?
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:31 am to Cash
I've tried to stay in Miles' corner for a while, but I just don't understand how he thinks he can win in this league with this type of offense
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:32 am to Prominentwon
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this is like you having a job and people wanting you fired for not having the quality resources to do so successfully.
but he is a recruiting God right?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:34 am to supatigah
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put the game in JJ's hands by moving the pocket and making more outside the hash throws/vertical routes/dump offs to backs
I only saw one or two of JJ's high school games, but as I remember this is pretty much exclusively what he did.
I don't recall him doing a straight drop back once. It was all roll outs/moving pockets.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:34 am to Cash
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I also know about the roster he inherited.
Meh. I hate this argument. Like those guys just went out on the field with their intramural flag football team and beat everyone. Didn't need the coaching, I guess.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:35 am to Prominentwon
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idiots. The last two people that responded take offense to my original post. So predictable.
Take offense at your tone--always lecturing like you have the monopoly on intelligence. State an opinion without smugly implying your chatting with Jesus to get it, and I'll stay silent.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:36 am to teamplaya
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but he is a recruiting God right?
You're telling me that Jordan Jefferson should be an elite SEC QB right now? Telling me that a true soph should be playing with no mental breakdowns and errors?
2 posts in this thread and you fit in the "Look at me! Look at me! I told you" crowd.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:36 am to Prominentwon
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Meh. I hate this argument. Like those guys just went out on the field with their intramural flag football team and beat everyone. Didn't need the coaching, I guess.
Of course they needed coaching. But some/most of those close wins that Miles pulled out in his first couple of years were pulled out by incredible individual plays by guys like Doucet, JR, Bowe, Landry, Hester, etc.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:37 am to Prominentwon
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Didn't need the coaching, I guess.
wait there was coching? I thought it was just like "mmmmmmmm.....let's go for it....yeah yeah"
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:38 am to supatigah
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With the running game they have this makes for a simple and effective offense.
Did you see his numbers from the weekend? If there's ANY improvement from here on out with the LSU offense....if they find some spark somewhere, I'm not ruling out the Alabama game. I can't. Not after watching their game vs. Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:38 am to teamplaya
quote:if you read the entire reply, I said it doesn't appear he is regressing (getting worse) and he isn't progressing (getting better) he is the same he has been all year. The defenses we are playing are getting better (in the meat of our SEC schedule) and their game plans make him look worse each week because they are taking the easy stuff away from him.
why isn't every other qb "regressing"?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:39 am to teamplaya
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wait there was coching? I thought it was just like "mmmmmmmm.....let's go for it....yeah yeah"
that's 3 awesome posts where you bring nothing to the conversation. Maybe Supah is taking note.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:40 am to msutiger
quote:It's because of the way you are critisizing, flaming and saying 'he should be benched' and "Les Miles should be fired" are just dumb statements. Neither of them is going to happen. If you want to make critiques and say JJ has no pocket awareness, and Les Miles is too stubborn to make in game changes or utilize the talent, then say it. Those are all reasonable critiques, but when people just start flaming that our team "sucks" and the coaches should get fired immediately, that's just stupid and it doesn't really deserve an educated response.
rom I was here, being called a negatiger. People even called for my ban on the help board because I was being realistic with Jefferson. I was called a douche and not a real fan.
The coaches just got major pay raises, we've lost 1 game to the #1 team in the nation by 10 freakin' points, we are ranked in the top 10, we have a soph QB with all of 6 starts under his belt, our defense is playing lights out, and we've had 3 top 5 recruiting classes in the last 3 years.
The whole sky is falling mentality is just idiotic, and it makes you look like someone who doesn't understand football and can't see the big picture. We need changes to be made for sure on offense, but people need to have a litte perspective with their comments.
The flaming does nothing but demoralize the fan base and the team (you can bet they hear all this stuff that's being posted from their friends and relatives), it also probably hurts recruiting.
LSU fans are their own worst enemies.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:41 am to supatigah
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if you read the entire reply, I said it doesn't appear he is regressing (getting worse) and he isn't progressing (getting better) he is the same he has been all year. The defenses we are playing are getting better (in the meat of our SEC schedule) and their game plans make him look worse each week because they are taking the easy stuff away from him.
If you are not taking a step forward, you are taking a step back brotha.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:42 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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It's because of the way you are critisizing, flaming and saying 'he should be benched' and "Les Miles should be fired" are just dumb statements. Neither of them is going to happen. If you want to make critiques and say JJ has no pocket awareness, and Les Miles is too stubborn to make in game changes or utilize the talent, then say it. Those are all reasonable critiques, but when people just start flaming that our team "sucks" and the coaches should get fired immediately, that's just stupid and it doesn't really deserve an educated response.
Excellent post.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:42 am to Cash
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Of course they needed coaching. But some/most of those close wins that Miles pulled out in his first couple of years were pulled out by incredible individual plays by guys like Doucet, JR, Bowe, Landry, Hester, etc.
this is the flawed logic that so many on this board exhibit day after day
the coaching that you dismiss was the coaching that had them in a position to make those incredible individual plays. Someone had to put the system in at practice. Someone had to come up with a game plan. Someone had to make in game adjustments for the game plan of the opponent. Someone had to call the play that allowed the incredible individual play to happen. The players don't draw shite up in the dirt on the field during the game and then go make incredible individual plays.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:46 am to Prominentwon
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Maybe Supah is taking note.
LSUfoosball has left the building once again
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:47 am to supatigah
That was his alter? Awesome.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:47 am to supatigah
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Someone had to make in game adjustments for the game plan of the opponent. Someone had to call the play that allowed the incredible individual play to happen. The players don't draw shite up in the dirt on the field during the game and then go make incredible individual plays.
Some of the time this is valid, some time it is improvised or just a freak athlete making plays.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:47 am to Cash
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Of course they needed coaching. But some/most of those close wins that Miles pulled out in his first couple of years were pulled out by incredible individual plays by guys like Doucet, JR, Bowe, Landry, Hester, etc
Not to belabor the point, but can't MANY coaches that are considered great point to certain plays made by individual players that pulled their asses out of the fire?
Was it coaching that gave us Mauck to Green against UGA in 2003? green ran the wrong route and Mauck made a great play.
Was it coaching that made Marcus Spears make his Pick 6 in the NCG against OU...without which LSU may never have been in a position to win that game?
Russell pulled LSU's arse out of the fire against OSU in 2004 in the rain in his first appearance in Tiger stadium.
He did it again against Iowa in the second half only to have the D fail to make a stop on the final play.
I get what you're saying, I just think it's easy to pick and choose what you can credit a coach for. Does he get credit for coaching up players and therefore get credit when they make great individual plays...or are all geat individual plays simply the doing of the player?
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