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re: Let us discuss theories on the increased use of Kenny Hilliard

Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:23 am to
Posted by hogeb
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:23 am to
I don't know if we will see this pattern continue, but I like the rotation I saw in the Arkansas game. Hilliard pounds away for two or three quarters then Ware comes in with the same powerful style but a little more wiggle. Holes are bigger after dealing with Hilliard and Ware has more success. When you think about it, it almost isn't fair to the other team to have Ware fresh for the fourth quarter
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:25 am to
I think Les just does these things to frick with other teams and he likes to try new things out.

There is no way you can prepare for 5 rbs. Like in the spring game both punters used their left foot just to mess with other teams

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:26 am to
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Riding the hot hand. Fresh legs is the key to our running game. These backs are hungry


Ding, ding, ding.......
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:27 am to
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I think Ware bulked a little much in the off season.
Looks to me like he has gained weight this season, and not in a good way.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:28 am to
Hilliard is IMO the most complete RB on the team with ford right behind him.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:29 am to
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Looks to me like he has gained weight this season, and not in a good way.


He hasn't done much since the UT game and was suspended for the auburn game.

Since being suspended, doesn't seem like he's done much except for the one TD against ole miss
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 9:30 am
Posted by ville platte tiger
Ville Platte, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:29 am to
Ware is fat, look at his midsection! Needs to get leaner
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:30 am to
Ware has definitely lost a little juice, he's not close to how he was running in the Florida game, for example. Maybe injury, maybe dead legs, who knows

And Hilliard is in the zone

I'd say that's about it
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:31 am to
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And Hilliard is in the zone


Indeed. He's having fun out there.
Posted by Big Lake
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to
I dont understand why Ware bulked up so much. The A&M game should have indicated he was fine were he was at.

Maybe Les wanted someone who could really deal the punishment. :shrug:

That being said I don't think the other RBs besides Hilliard would do as well without Ware. Defense thinks twice about hitting him after a few trucks.
Posted by LadyRPTiger
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to
Hillard was a beast in the Ar Kansas game!
Posted by bojabu
Member since Sep 2010
1275 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to
I agree with the rest of you who said Ware is dinged up. Right now he's not the same back who began the season at #1. Still effective, can still hit someone and drag people for extra yard or two, but not the same. Our backs have the benefit of being type-cast due to depth, so it's hard for me to settle of a depth chart style list of 1-5. Ford has been extremely effective when pair with JJ. Hilliard is definitely coming on strong as our power back, and Ware showed the other night he can still break free for huge gains as well as truck people. Blue is unfair, because he's usually brought in so late that the other teams don't want to be beat on anymore. And I can't tell if Magee was that good or Ole Piss was that bad. Probably a bit of both, it looked like the ghost of Jacob Hester had possessed him, causing him to run rampant over, around and through everything in his path.

But let's give credit where it's due. It's not fair to say how well every damn back on Lsu's team is doing without looking to the real stars, the OLine. They had injury issues earlier in the year, but around the Alabama game, things just started getting better and better. I hate to say it, but didn't T-Bob leave the lineup right around then? Either way, we needed him badly when we had 3 and 4 men down. So here's to those big cats up front, and the FBs, who do the heavy lifting!
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to
everyone of Ware's carries are between the tackles and they are on running downs for the most part. THere is going to be a collision. he knows it, they know it and the American People know it. He is in there to get us ahead of the chanins and establish a physical presence.

Hilliard is not quite as violent, but he is bigger, faster, quicker, and has better vision than Ware. Ware appears to be a better pass blocker and receiver at this point.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:34 am to
that too.
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:36 am to
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I hate to say it, but didn't T-Bob leave the lineup right around then?


TBob is playing as much as ever. He just shouldnt play center and we sarted playing better when Lonergan cam back and TBob was moved to a better postion.

TBob gets too much hate imo
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:36 am to
Perhaps Ware gained weight from the munchies caused by the "fake" weed he's been smoking?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:36 am to
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Having failed 3 drug test prob doesn't help his chances.


Look for Hilliard to supplant him in the "power back" role
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:38 am to
Ware got suspended for Auburn, & Hilliard got a shot. The shot got extended when Blue got nicked on that long run in Oxford.

Both Ware & Hilliard are gifted runners but absorbe punishment via their running styles just as much as they deliver it. Which is to say a lot.

Hilliard has pounced on his opportunities, & presents another between-the-tackle option that gives you more versatile options in playcalling, because he's actually got much better acceleration, and his footwork is amazing. His lateral cuts/"jump cuts" (Ridley was a master of this) are just great.

We're keeping Ware healthy, feeding a young, talented horse, & getting better production out of both of them. Net positive for LSU as a result.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:40 am to
It seems to me that Ware isn't 100% healthy. He's not punishing like he did before Bama.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:41 am to
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TBob gets too much hate imo


We have been unable to consistently run behind him all season long outside of the 2nd half when we wear teams out physically, regardless of where he's lined up at on the interior. With the possible exception of Oregon, where I was impressed with his abilities to run-block.

There's a reason Blackwell was moved over to the LG position to team with Faulk. Lonergan/Blackwell/Faulk is a dominant left side of the line, & T-Bob's knowledge & technique help mask his big problems with athleticism & susceptibility to the bull rush & straight line push.

Stop and think: Hilliard TD run was behind the left side. Ware TD run was behind the left side. JJ TD run was zone read to the left side.

This is a trend.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 9:43 am
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