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re: Les Miles is a great coach and the LSU football program isn't going anywhere.

Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76664 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:12 pm to
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Had Miles replaced Dinardo, we would still only have one title
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:12 pm to
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Since 2007 one team is 75-13 and another is 69-19. Guess the teams.


Wait so you're gonna discredit two 11 win seasons? GTFO
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:12 pm to
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What? Come on. Lsu had all of TWO national titles , IN OUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE, before Miles got here and now it's National title or the season is shite? We are becoming the most entitled fan base in cfb.


He got a NC in a year we lost to UK and Arkansas. He was fortunate, no doubt.

He's had a great run, but while you're convinced his past justifies the present,, most don't see it that way.

Miles wins on superior talent, and this team doesn't have that.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:12 pm to
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well he definitely had a NC type team in 06,2011 and 2012. None of them won the NC.



you need the ball to bounce your way to win a NC. We haven't had the recruiting classes that Bama has had but still have been competitive with them over the years. Miles has his ways about him, he is not perfect, but he is still a great coach. Also he is a great coach and good man who doesn't compromise his priciples unlike the snake oil salesman two states over.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:15 pm to
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Keep giving your money and your time. Wish upon a star and come back in 3 years so I can say I told you so. This is just as the beginning of the downfall of the Dinardo days.


And this is he ignorant shite in talking about. When did dinardo win sec titles? I hate our ignorant fan base. Last year we were a 4&1 conversion away from being back to back west champs. But yeah just like dinardo. Idiot.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:15 pm to
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well he definitely had a NC type team in 06,2011 and 2012. None of them won the NC.


agreed that other dude keeps posting his 2nd highest SEC winning percentage getting sick of that crap
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:16 pm to
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Wait so you're gonna discredit two 11 win seasons? GTFO


I am comparing 2 programs that in 2006 were complete opposites. Saban rebuilt Bama while we were the class of the sec and still has 6 more wins and 6 fewer losses in that span.
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:18 pm to
He is a good coach not great. If he were a great coach he'd have won another NC by now.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:18 pm to
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Had miles replaced dinardo we would still only have one title


It's common knowledge that it harder to maintain a powerhouse than build one. Which is harder to do? Have 3 good recruiting classes or have 7 good recruiting classes? Which is harder to do? 3 10 win seasons or 8 10 wins seasons?
Saban is the best program builder. Let's face it. Saban is top 5 ALLTIME.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3355 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:18 pm to
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Dude, great coaches lose their touch. LSU doesn't have the talent to just show up and win over inferior talent anymore.


Was it 9 defensive players that went pro off last years team? It is possible to remain strong on defense if you lose 5 maybe six players. But to lose 9 is insane. Many predicted a 9-3 to 8-4 season. Now that it a reality everyone is asking for the axe because the expectations are being met. The team is surviving off the arm of Mett and he had a bad game. But every player struggles now and then and nobody stepped up. It sucks but two losses of a combined 6 points is not like we were blown out. We had chances to win and it did not go our way. True tiger fans should support the team and quit all this fire this coach and that one. The same people complaining are the same people not coaching or playing at the college level. Maybe you should send your resumes to LSU if you are so good coaching.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:21 pm to
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Miles wins on superior talent, and this team doesn't have that.


Every elite program does. That's a fact. It's not a coincidence that the top 25 poll looks a lot like the team rankings in recruiting.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:21 pm to
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Was it 9 defensive players that went pro off last years team? It is possible to remain strong on defense if you lose 5 maybe six players.


So we don't reload?

Ole Miss was missing a shite load of defensive talent yesterday and won the game. I'm not buying the mass defections from last years defense as the sole reason Bo Wallace looked like superman yesterday.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:22 pm to
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Has Saban ever lost to a team he shouldn't? Has Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow lost to a shite ole miss team before ?(08). Has will Muschamp lost to a team he shouldn't? Name any coach in the sport of football and they have lost games they shouldn't.


Yes but Miles does it every year
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:25 pm to
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It's common knowledge that it harder to maintain a powerhouse than build one. Which is harder to do? Have 3 good recruiting classes or have 7 good recruiting classes? Which is harder to do? 3 10 win seasons or 8 10 wins seasons?


I think it is harder to make a losing program a winner.

Who has tougher recruiting jobs? Dinardo & Saban or Miles?

It's much easier to recruit kids to stay at home and go to a winning program than to a losing program. Not to mention saban built buildings that are incredible recruiting tools so recruiting kids to lsu now is much easier than 10 years ago.

Is Gundy better than miles? OSU is better.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:25 pm to
Miles does not lose to team he shouldn't every year. Sorry.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48337 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:25 pm to
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Les Miles is a great coach


Fine! So give him a Lifetime Contract to be LSU HC and let's end the debate until he's dead !


I'm with you. LSU can't do better than Coach Miles, so, they are a perfect fit for each other !

This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:26 pm to
Miles does not lose to team he shouldn't every year. Sorry.

Saban loses to underdogs every year.
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1351 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:26 pm to
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Ole Miss was missing a shite load of defensive talent yesterday and won the game. I'm not buying the mass defections from last years defense as the sole reason Bo Wallace looked like superman yesterday.


We made Bo f'n Wallace look like the second coming of Michael Vick. That's a sad thought.

Preseason this doesn't look like a bad loss; however, knowing what we know now -- losing to a decimated Ole Miss team -- it's a very bad loss.
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
923 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:27 pm to
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And this is he ignorant shite in talking about. When did dinardo win sec titles? I hate our ignorant fan base. Last year we were a 4&1 conversion away from being back to back west champs. But yeah just like dinardo. Idiot.


Hey youngster. I have been here since 1955 and played my share of football. When you get a clue (and I doubt you will) let me know. And when you get your degree let me know that too. Chances are you won't get there.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48337 posts
Posted on 10/20/13 at 7:28 pm to
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Saban loses to underdogs every year.


We get it. You think that Coach Miles is every bit as good at coaching as is Coach Nick Saban !

You are entitled to your opinion !

By the way, do you have any money on who will win the BCS this season? Did you bet on LSU? If not, why not, since you think Coach Miles is AWESOME ?



By the way, GREAT TROLL JOB !! I like your style !!

:rotflmao:
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 7:30 pm
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