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re: Legit Accusation Regarding the NCG and former Saints DC Gregg Williams?

Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:04 am to
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:04 am to
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Williams and Saban are bros



I would think they were more "bros" than the LSU staff and the Saints staff
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:04 am to
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At least this rumor is a hell of a lot more legitimate than the "JJ threw the game" thread



.and I'm not here to make excuses. I hate that.

But alot of pieces fit now that this has come out.

--LSU practices different gameplan for Bama
--finds out gameplan is compromised by Williams
--has to change gameplan and hope something else works
--Miles has no response to media about why gameplan didn't work.
Posted by New Boy
Member since Aug 2009
890 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:04 am to
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LSU has some new plays from different formations. LSU lines up in new formations. Miraculously, Bama shifts perfectly to defend a play they've never seen. Thus, we audible out of what is obviously going to be a bad play.


This.
Posted by Child of the Missip
Member since May 2012
1522 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:04 am to
Who's out or blood? I'm out for blood big time. If these accusations are true or could possibly be then why hasn't Mile's alerted the authorities? Or how would Blackwell & T-Bob know and not Les?

I'm just ready for this damn game we shouldn't have beaten them last year(ESPN critics would claim) and we did, I can't imagine it going differently this year! Time to WILL the tigers past the conspiracies and focus on whippin arse at hand.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:05 am to
Also 10 mill was placed on bama 2 days prior to the game.


If you want to get really far out there, maybe bounty gate was leaked as a return favor. #derp
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37248 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:05 am to
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If you knew someone was watching the practices and relaying that info, shouldn't you HAVE to change the game plan?


So the Coaching staff knew this and decided to run JJ option plays all night long?

Just FTR, no one but LSU personnel has watched LSU practice the last two weeks right?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:05 am to
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This is crazy. I don't get why the cents would be helping Bama though. Williams and Saban are bros?


the fraternity of cheating coaches is a close knit bunch...
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:05 am to
Whether they felt "compelled" to help Bama or not is really a moot point.
Williams DID help and has admitted this.
Once he agreed to assist and consult with Saban, he had the motive to do so competently.
But, we'll never know the truth.
Only Williams and Saban know what information was conveyed and neither are credible IMO.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:06 am to
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And there it is ladies and gentlemen. The Gumps put it all to bed. They know for a fact that none of this is even possible because everyone of these plant working, moron sidewalk fans sit in on gameplan meetings. They know everything that goes on with "Bama Footbawl".


No shite. Like Williams doesn't get any time off from dealing with his own work. Like he couldn't have taken an hour break from his work and went down and watched LSU practice.

Must be a virtual impossibility.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
931 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:06 am to
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Oh, by the way, apparently the whole gameplan was changed at the last minute


Right! We decided it was safer to run vanilla plays/gameplan Bama had witnessed firsthand in the 1st matchup rather than the creative plays/gameplan Bama may have received secondhand.

Get out of here with the conspiracy theories. It's time to move on and accept that we were outcoached and outplayed 1/9. That is why we lost.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:07 am to
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So Saban and the Bama coaching staff never "consulted" with Gregg Williams?


I never said that. In fact, Saban has consulted with Williams multiple times. Specifically after the 2009 season when the Alabama staff went to the Saints to pick up tips on how to create turnovers. Saban even spoke about it during a press conference earlier this season.

Lots of coaches engage with other staffs during the offseason. But to think that Gregg Williams and the Saints staff "scouted" LSU for Alabama over the course of week during which the Saints staff was preparing for a huge playoff game (Detroit was no slouch on offense last year; the Saints defenseive staff had their hands full with them) is just asinine.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30360 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:07 am to
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You are no better than Saban...


I actually have no issue with Saban in this story. If Les used Sean Payton to cheat and win a title, we would be ecstatic about it.

But Gregg Williams is a piece of shite, and I hope he runs into Jonathan Vilma in a dark alley some day.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:07 am to
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why hasn't Mile's alerted the authorities?


No coach is going to accuse another without proof. Even if they did, we would never hear about it.

It's code.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38408 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:07 am to
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Must be a virtual impossibility.


Its amazing how blatant they cheat, yet the fans wont even acknowledge it. Hell if my team was cheating, winning and getting away with it all....i'd be rubbing it in the faces of the other teams. Gumps deny it because they are pure, they just win because they are superior and dont need to cheat.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:08 am to
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So the Coaching staff knew this and decided to run JJ option plays all night long?


quote:

LSU has some new plays from different formations. LSU lines up in new formations. Miraculously, Bama shifts perfectly to defend a play they've never seen. Thus, we audible out of what is obviously going to be a bad play.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70248 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:08 am to
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But Gregg Williams is a piece of shite, and I hope he runs into Jonathan Vilma in a dark alley some day.

I hope he runs into Zed from Pulp Fiction some day.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:08 am to
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Also 10 mill was placed on bama 2 days prior to the game.


If you want to get really far out there, maybe bounty gate was leaked as a return favor. #derp


now we're getting somewhere...

the next plains are burning...sticky?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38408 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:08 am to
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No coach is going to accuse another without proof. Even if they did, we would never hear about it.

It's code.



Exactly, which is why Miles has never had any kind of explanation.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11920 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:09 am to
Bama came out on 1/9 and played like a team on a mission. They completely dominated on Def. The rest of this shite does not matter.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 10:09 am to
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Prominentwon


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