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re: La'el Collins reportedly signing with Cowboys
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:51 pm to ell_13
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:51 pm to ell_13
I hope Collins is cleared, but this is what worries me:
Collin's is a great talent and several NFL teams wanted him. They spent a good deal of time and money getting inside info (these guys are smart pros) from investigators, police, and others close to this situation and decided not to touch him, even in late draft rounds. They didn't just back away because of rumors. They got way more facts than any poster in this thread has and backed off.
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:52 pm to Nawlens Gator
Are you insinuating that pro teams bribed the BRPD?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:52 pm to Nawlens Gator
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They got way more facts than
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:53 pm to lsupride87
I get the sarcasm... I'm not saying the cops are lying. I'm saying it doesn't mean as much as what everyone thinks/wants it to mean. It almost means nothing in this situation.
For about 10 years now cops have learned that the less info they give out in some instances, the more success they'll have with investigations. Naming suspects, talking about evidence, giving timelines, etc. have all become huge no-no's because they can make a cop's job more difficult.
As a simple example, if an investigator puts out a name or tries to get in touch with someone and calls them a "suspect", they are more likely to be less cooperative. But if someone is just called in for questioning or labeled a POI, then they are often less defensive. I'm not saying that's what's happening here in that La'el is a "suspect" underneath it all. Just that what the police say during an investigation has very little value.
For about 10 years now cops have learned that the less info they give out in some instances, the more success they'll have with investigations. Naming suspects, talking about evidence, giving timelines, etc. have all become huge no-no's because they can make a cop's job more difficult.
As a simple example, if an investigator puts out a name or tries to get in touch with someone and calls them a "suspect", they are more likely to be less cooperative. But if someone is just called in for questioning or labeled a POI, then they are often less defensive. I'm not saying that's what's happening here in that La'el is a "suspect" underneath it all. Just that what the police say during an investigation has very little value.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:53 pm to Brageous
Would it shock you if they did?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:54 pm to GeauxToBed
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Would it shock you if they did?
If 32 teams know something, there's a 100% chance it would have been leaked.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:55 pm to GeauxToBed
It definitely would surprise me. No need to risk that much for a franchise over one potential player.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:55 pm to Chad504boy
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absolute isn't a suspect man.
He is certainly suspect, though.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:55 pm to Nawlens Gator
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They didn't just back away because of rumors.
They backed away because the information they could get was unclear. Sean Payton said as much.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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He is certainly suspect, though.
link to associated press article?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:56 pm to ell_13
By your own logic the right reply should've been no comment.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:57 pm to Chad504boy
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If 32 teams know something, there's a 100% chance it would have been leaked.
...by Adam Schefter.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:58 pm to Nawlens Gator
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They got way more facts than any poster in this thread has and backed off.
You realize we live in a society now that is social media obsessed and the media hit a team would take on this would be pretty substantial even if the guy is innocent right? This isn't the 90's and early 2000's when teams can have murderers on their teams and let the legal system work it out.
Hell, you just had an NFL player convicted of one murder and on trial for two more. On top of that, you have numerous domestic and physical abuse issues around the league, and you think that their even willing to take on a guy with this type of media baggage?
It sucks for La'el if he's innocent, but this is the world today because of idiots on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and message boards that need to know everything all the time and want to be known.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:58 pm to touchdownjeebus
By my own logic the police don't want anyone feeling like a suspect. They don't want anyone they talk to to feel attacked. They want people to cooperate.
Usually, the only time suspects names are released is because the police are looking for them and might need to publics help or to warn the public of a possible danger.
Usually, the only time suspects names are released is because the police are looking for them and might need to publics help or to warn the public of a possible danger.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:59 pm to Chad504boy
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quote: Would it shock you if they did? If 32 teams know something, there's a 100% chance it would have been leaked.
Not necessarily. But I think it was probably the fact that the way he acted and responded made him look like he at least was hiding something even if he wasn't. With all the domestic dispute stuff the NFL has had lately, they want to stay far away.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:02 pm to Nawlens Gator
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Collin's is a great talent and several NFL teams wanted him. They spent a good deal of time and money getting inside info (these guys are smart pros) from investigators, police, and others close to this situation and decided not to touch him, even in late draft rounds. They didn't just back away because of rumors. They got way more facts than any poster in this thread has and backed off.
LOL, so now the NFL has solved the case even before the BRPD has. Awesome. This is the same NFL that couldn't get a video tape for the Ray Rice fiasco though, right?
Or is it more plausible that they backed away because of the PR nightmare it would cause if he were to be arrested down the line. I know its not as sexy of a story but sounds more realistic to me.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:02 pm to Will2nd
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They backed away because the information they could get was unclear. Sean Payton said as much.
They backed away because the league decided to.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:03 pm to npt817
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LOL, so now the NFL has solved the case even before the BRPD has. Awesome. This is the same NFL that couldn't get a video tape for the Ray Rice fiasco though, right?
I was thinking the same thing.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:04 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
makes you wonder theoretically speaking what's the line on type of action a player is deemed associated with for all 32 teams to pass on drafting a player.
A rape allegation?
A bad domestic violence issue?
A rape allegation?
A bad domestic violence issue?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:09 pm to Nawlens Gator
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They didn't just back away because of rumors.
Please stick around Jethro. You fit in great with all the droolers here. Oh and Derrrrrrp.
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