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re: Kids don't want to stay for 4 years anymore

Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:51 pm to
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No. They aren't. I do love this excuse though


It's no excuse. Look at the players declaring this year. The amount of underclassmen declaring is setting records every year. You can choose to think this is an LSU only problem, but it's a college football problem.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
I don't have a problem with kids wanting to leave early if it makes sense for them to do so. The fact remains that LSU IS affected more than any other school. Somehow schools like Bama can talk guys into coming back, but we can't. The flipside to this is if we have SOOOO much NFL talent on these teams, and they are being developed for that, then why do we not have Championships to show for it?
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Depends on the kid. If you can improve your stock enough to go in the first couple rounds, I would stay.

I was thinking about the Mannings when I wrote my comment. Both stayed and both had huge policies with Lloyds of London.
Posted by Fall Creek Tiger
Spring, TX
Member since Jul 2009
1195 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:07 pm to
So if you were working in an unpaid internship and someone came and offered you the job of your dreams, you would tell them, "No thanks. I'm going to stay with by unpaid internship." ???

I would bolt as early as possible if I was getting paid like an NFL player. Plus, 6th/7th round money isn't that different from 2nd/3rd round money from what I understand.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260167 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:14 pm to
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I was thinking about the Mannings when I wrote my comment. Both stayed and both had huge policies with Lloyds of London.



I think it makes more sense for a QB than most positions. Also, some of these guys really do enjoy college life, but I'm guessing they are few and far between.

These days if the NFL doesn't work out, you can finish your degree from the comfort of your own home.

Posted by tigurzzzz
Destin
Member since Dec 2013
258 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:29 pm to
Well when you put it that way...
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:11 pm to
Yea, it also makes the decision to stay easier when you're from such a wealthy family. Those LoL policies couldn't have been cheap.

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Also, some of these guys really do enjoy college life, but I'm guessing they are few and far between.

I enjoyed college life and I was never QB1. Hard to imagine their enjoyment.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31930 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Somehow schools like Bama can talk guys into coming back, but we can't.


Pretty sure they are losing like 4 just on defense.

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The flipside to this is if we have SOOOO much NFL talent on these teams, and they are being developed for that, then why do we not have Championshi


NFL talent doesn't directly translate into wins. That's why you play. It just so happens that the teams we play against, are also loaded with NFL talent.




This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4149 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:20 pm to
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this is what the staff is selling

I think this is a big part of why LSU has so many leaving early. Our coaches push this hard to recruits. They have to IMO when going up against BAMA who has 3 out of 4 NC and other schools with less honorable tactics.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Bama players don't leave early because they don't want to take a pay cut




Pretty funny.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:23 pm to
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So if you were working in an unpaid internship and someone came and offered you the job of your dreams, you would tell them, "No thanks. I'm going to stay with by unpaid internship." ???


You are comparing kids that get everything (housing, food, tuition, books, etc) paid for them as unpaid interns?
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:27 pm to
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. It just seems like at LSU les gets the kids to come here, but then they get sick of playing for him or get into trouble and get out. Bottom line it's how can I make the money as fast as I can. Then when they don't get drafted high or not get drafted at all and don't make the teams, it's dam I should have stayed. FAST CASH!! Too many agents and scouts! Just like baseball wants them right away.




Pretty much every one has made a team you dumb frick
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:32 pm to
And yes, this is happening or is starting to happen everywhere else. All you have to do is watch the recruits announce their school of choice.

What do they all say now? "I will be spending the next 3 or 4 years at..." And they all don't come to only lsu
Posted by LSUregit
Member since Dec 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:50 pm to
If someone was willing to pay me atleast 500k right now, I would stop everything and walk out!
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26624 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 7:06 pm to
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It's all about the fast cash. What school can I go to where I will play as a freshman, take my bumps, make a name for myself in the second year, and then haul arse out after my junior year. It just seems like at LSU les gets the kids to come here, but then they get sick of playing for him or get into trouble and get out. Bottom line it's how can I make the money as fast as I can. Then when they don't get drafted high or not get drafted at all and don't make the teams, it's dam I should have stayed. FAST CASH!! Too many agents and scouts! Just like baseball wants them right away.


We had 6 four year players here last year that left.

Barrow, Loston, Mett here this year for 5 years
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 7:34 pm to
Agreed! The good ones are going to go no matter what school they go to. If Collins stays it will be a shock. He's definitely thinking legacy if he stays. None of these other players wants anything but money. Sad. One day they will wonder what could have been. Such is Life.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:30 pm to
LSU losses more quality jrs than any school. We may never have a great player stay for his sr. year again. Everyone complains then tells them to go. I even heard one of the media comment that a certain jr, may not even get drafted ,but should leave and test his free agency chances. This is insane.How do we expect to ever have a shot at another NC, LSU should completely do away with redshirting. This is 2014, injuries happen and they are healed to go on and have great football careers. What if Hill would have stayed, maybe a shot at a Heisman maybe a NC? This would definatly up his signing contract. This means nothing anymore. LSU fans complain about all the early departures , then almost to a man say they should leave. A college degree, that's a joke, never even considered.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 8:33 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8593 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:31 pm to
So which is it, the fast cash or les? you fricking idiot
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8593 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:32 pm to
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We may never have a great player stay for his sr. year again.


this has everything to do with the new CBA. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68467 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:59 pm to
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but in some ways the question is whether or not it is better to stay one more year and maximize the first contract. lots of guys do it. aTm has had first round grades on ol the past 2 years and they both returned to school. bama had McCarron and mosely return. Oregon qb is returning. the best financial decision for some of these kids is to return to school and some (not many) choose to do it.



Yeah and LSU has had Srs on the last 3 teams that could have went to the nfl and didnt. They will have some next year as well.
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