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re: Jordan Jefferson......

Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:25 pm to
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Doc you must be black and very insecure when it comes to your intelligence.


Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:26 pm to
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So did the other fella last year. Just how it is presently at LSU


yeah, I know.

but you can't play the "he almost threw a pick" game.

just saying.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:26 pm to
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yeah, I know.

but you can't play the "he almost threw a pick" game.


Its not a game, its fact. JJ has been fortunate in that regard.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:26 pm to
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Euphemisms
- QB is smart (white)
- QB is athletic (black)
with a few exceptions


As a black man, i'm offended

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:27 pm to
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Its not a game, its fact. JJ has been fortunate in that regard.


Is the "almost pick" a new stat?

did they keep this stat last year?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:29 pm to
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Is the "almost pick" a new stat?

did they keep this stat last year?



Lets just call them bad passes to the other fella.

Your insecurity on the issues of JJ border on instability. I am not pro or con, just stating the facts.
Posted by Geauxst
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:30 pm to
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If you really want to compare JJ's stats to other QB's, try looking at what other QB's that are freshmen or sophomores did at other programs this year. Comparing him to JR at the same point in his LSU career does not portend to anything.

Of the top 100 there are 15 freshmen and sophomores who were better than JJ this year in the NCAA and 13 worse. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out that JJ is mediocre, at best.


Well, if you look at the QB ratings, only 9 freshman and sophomores are ranked ahead of him, and about 23 behind him in the top 100. I don't know how many of those sophs are true sophs like Jefferson, but only one, Mallet, also plays in the SEC and has faced the no. 1 and 2 ranked scoring defenses in the country this year, like Jefferson has.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:33 pm to
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Well, if you look at the QB ratings, only 9 freshman and sophomores are ranked ahead of him, and about 23 behind him in the top 100. I don't know how many of those sophs are true sophs like Jefferson, but only one, Mallet, also plays in the SEC and has faced the no. 1 and 2 ranked scoring defenses in the country this year, like Jefferson has.




JJ looked pretty good vs Arkansas, Auburn and Washington. He has done admirably. Hope he can get the help needed and step it up so LSU can compete with the Floridas and Alabamas, and possibly win.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:34 pm to
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Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:35 pm to
I think most LSU fans have come to realize Jefferson is not the future, Chris Garrett is
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:35 pm to
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Just another reason Flynn is smarter:
Flynn made SEC academic honor roll.




good for him!
Posted by Proejo
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:36 pm to
OK... well I was looking at point responsibility, not passing. But if you want to play the stats game:

2007 - Flynn led offense: 63 TD's and 26 FG's.

2009 - JJ led offense: 32 TD's and 16 FG's.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:37 pm to
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I think most LSU fans have come to realize Jefferson is not the future, Chris Garrett is



Depends on how quickly Garrett picks up the offense, whatever that may be this year. Will say if LSU has a new OC, the job may be up for grabs.

JJ has the tools to play. But, if LSU runs a true pro set offense next year Garrett could be the man.

Garrett may have the same troubles JJ does. If he has the same coaches, I would bet on it.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:38 pm to
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I think most LSU fans have come to realize Jefferson is not the future, Chris Garrett is


Who hasn't played a single snap in college yet.

Got anymore nuggets of wisdom?


Posted by TigerNlc
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:39 pm to
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Who hasn't played a single snap in college yet.

Got anymore nuggets of wisdom?


The same was said about RS before the season but no one thought that was funny.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:41 pm to
Glad to see so many people defending JJ. I don't know what all of the beef is for. The kid looks promising to me. I'm not saying he'll be a Colt McCoy, Bradford, or Stafford, but he can be a top SEC QB if he's coached properly and focuses. Hell, maybe he can be as good as some of the elites.

I don't know. We'll see.


Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:42 pm to
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The same was said about RS before the season but no one thought that was funny.


When RS starts passing, we'll discuss this.

until then, you're point is well...

pointless.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:42 pm to
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I don't know what all of the beef is for.


I don't have any beef with JJ just people like the doc that want to rank him ahead of people that he is not better than.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:42 pm to
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I think most LSU fans have come to realize Jefferson is not the future, Chris Garrett is


The future.. as in.. 2-3 years from now Jefferson didn't light it up early in the year.. but he definitely improved.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:43 pm to
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people like the doc that want to rank him ahead of people that he is not better than.


link?

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