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re: Jordan Jefferson......
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I could live with more INT's and more offensive production.
I don't know how I feel about that toss up.
JJ just needs some good coaching.
He has the tools to win, just still raw at times.
He needs to pull the trigger faster, and more often, that's for sure.
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:09 pm to Geauxst
If you really want to compare JJ's stats to other QB's, try looking at what other QB's that are freshmen or sophomores did at other programs this year. Comparing him to JR at the same point in his LSU career does not portend to anything.
Of the top 100 there are 15 freshmen and sophomores who were better than JJ this year in the NCAA and 13 worse. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out that JJ is mediocre, at best.
Of the top 100 there are 15 freshmen and sophomores who were better than JJ this year in the NCAA and 13 worse. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out that JJ is mediocre, at best.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:09 pm to TigerNlc
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What were his stats in yards and touchdowns?
flynn?
we're talking about "smart" qb's right?
do smart qb's throw a lot of int's?
or are you just making up shite again?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:09 pm to TheDoc
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how do you explain that?
He can't and he won't. The reason people think Flynn was "smart" and Jefferson isn't is because...well...you know why.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:10 pm to RobbBobb
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So you're suggesting LSU is going without an SEC or BCS title for the next two yrs, like they did with JR?
Well, Russell only played one year after 2005, not two. And I'm not suggesting anything, just trying to provide some stats for discussion. But, using your logic, if Jefferson plays well enough next year to be the first quarterback taken in the NFL draft we would probably all be pretty happy.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:11 pm to LSUownsSEC
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But IMHO, he will neve lead LSU to a SECCG. If he does, my hat is off to him.
why you say that, he's only a sophmore and has 2 more years of coaching ahead of him...i think next year, and for the bowl game for that matter we'll see a different JJ
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I could live with more INT's and more offensive production.
Wow. Amazing how our ideas of what an ideal offense should do changes from year to year.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:13 pm to geauxtigahs87
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He can't and he won't. The reason people think Flynn was "smart" and Jefferson isn't is because...well...you know why.
He gets owned in everyone of these threads.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:13 pm to geauxtigahs87
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 7:56 am
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:13 pm to TheDoc
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get out of here with your facts and statistics
heaven forbid we should use logic
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:14 pm to msutiger
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Flynn had better stats than Jefferson
but threw more INT's
how is he "smarter" than Jefferson again?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:16 pm to TheDoc
Flynn knew how to step up in the pocket. Flynn wouldn't have taken the sacks the Jefferson took. Flynn also could check his receivers 10x faster. Anyone who says Jefferson is smarter than Flynn is either brain dead or just ignorant
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:16 pm to TheDoc
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how is he "smarter" than Jefferson again?
Maybe his grades were better
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flynn?
we're talking about "smart" qb's right?
do smart qb's throw a lot of int's?
or are you just making up shite again?
Doc you must be black and very insecure when it comes to your intelligence. I didn't know this was a thread about which QB was smarter but as usual that's what it always turns into with you. You were saying how good it was JJ only threw 6 picks. The only thing you fail to understand is that is not the only criteria for a good quarterback. How many sacks did he take? Who threw for more yards and touchdowns? That was the point I was trying to make.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:18 pm to msutiger
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Well if you are implying me as a racist you can gfy
adorable
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Flynn had better stats than Jefferson
He had better stats in the ones you want to count. Jefferson had a better completion %, more yards/attempt, better QB rating, etc. Which includes two games against two top 5 defenses in the country.
The stats are either equal or the 5th year senior has a VERY slight edge over the true sophomore. Kinda hard to put up similar stats that quickly when you're apparently not as "smart" as the other guy.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:18 pm to msutiger
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Flynn knew how to step up in the pocket.
How'd flynn do in that outback bowl when he came in a a redshirt freshman?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:18 pm to jmelancon1
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why you say that, he's only a sophmore and has 2 more years of coaching ahead of him...i think next year, and for the bowl game for that matter we'll see a different JJ
Depends on the new OC (if any)
Pro style offense, the new OC may prefer Garrett, if he has a grasp of reading the defenses.
For those using INT's as a measure of how good a QB is, forget it. The same things that limit JJ from throwing INT's are the same thing that limits the offense. Plus, JJ has had a lot of int's dropped this year.
JJ is an average QB, with above average skills, who in the right offense with the right coach could possibly lead a team to an SEC title.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:18 pm to TigerNlc
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Maybe his grades were better
maybe
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Plus, JJ has had a lot of int's dropped this year.
also had a lot of passes dropped by his receivers.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:23 pm to TheDoc
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Plus, JJ has had a lot of int's dropped this year.
also had a lot of passes dropped by his receivers.
So did the other fella last year. Just how it is presently at LSU
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:23 pm to TheDoc
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how is he "smarter" than Jefferson again?
Flynn looks like Matt Damon
Who played a math genius in 'Good Will Hunting'
Math genius is smart!
Euphemisms
- QB is smart (white)
- QB is athletic (black)
with a few exceptions
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