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re: Johnny could have called a timeout at end and got clock set to .5

Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:47 pm to
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anything calling a timeout there allows the refs to put the clock to at least .3 seconds where something is possible. 


Holy shite. Nothing is possible with .3 seconds.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:49 pm to
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He had already given up.There isn't a credible coach at any level who doesn't call a timeout there. 



You have no idea what youre talking about. There is no shot to do anything with .1-.3 seconds lefts
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Holy shite. Nothing is possible with .3 seconds.



This! The horn went off before Jylan even got in shooting motion!
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:05 pm to
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You have no idea what youre talking about. There is no shot to do anything with .1-.3 seconds lefts
Not true, rule says the ball has to be tipped on the inbounds throw in with less than .3 seconds. Very difficult, but possible. You also have the chance of being fouled on the tip.


It's called the Trent Tucker Rule in the NBA, but the rule is consistent at all levels.
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164342 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

The worst part was that after Martin grabbed the ball from the made basket, he and everyone looked at Jones who just blankly stared back at them.

The look on Martin's face was pretty heartbreaking when he grabbed the ball. He was like man wtf
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:35 pm to
Yeah, but was it enough time to get fouled and miss another free throw?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:49 pm to
yep no matter how much the Jones defenders want to ignore this fact, Jones got caught up in the emotion instead of doing the smart thing which was call the timeout. Sure we likely still lose but at least he would be aware enough to give his team any scrap of a chance.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10392 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:00 pm to
It would have been difficult to get the shot away at anything less than .5 but they could have crafted an inbounds play to hopefully draw a foul. Set a couple of screens and hope a defender runs overs someone. It would be great to alert the officials to what they are doing and hope they are alert to catch it if the defense falls for it.

They can't miss eight free throw in a row , can they?
Posted by pelicansfan
Member since Jun 2014
145 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:03 pm to
This team really should've practices free throws after the Auburn game
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10392 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:16 pm to
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is team really should've practices free throws after the Auburn game


With all due respect, do you really believe they don't shoot free throws?

Just remember prior to missing the final six they were 12 of 16 for 75%. Four of five starters shoot over 70% for the season, Mickey is at 66%. Gray is at 54%.

Even in the worse case scenario there should be no reason to expect 6 misses in a row. It happened. Its an aberration. Maybe karma will bring that scenario in their favor in the next few years.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:22 pm to
we probably would have. I look at jones failure to call the timeout here much like i look at les miles failure at ole miss the year before last. It isn't what cost us the game, even if they execute it properly its not likely at all. However, them not being aware of the situation drives me crazy.

I agree, we could have at least tried to draw up something and draw a foul. Jones seems scared to use a timeout or even speak to officials.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:31 pm to
Oh yeah that would have been great, especially considering the only thing this team sucks at more than free throws is inbound plays.
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67018 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Do something. What if there was a goal tending and Coach Jones didn't call a timeout that would allow the refs to review the play?


You can't review goal tending bruh.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:55 pm to
you can blame the coach and some blame is deserved, but:
11 missed Free Throws did us in...

Free throws do 2 things ..BESIDES the obvious points
a) it demoralizes the team trying to catch up if they are made
b) it encourages the team trying to catch up if missed...and at some point, it puts DOUBT in the player shooting the free throws.

I saw players "aiming" their free throws at the basket, rather than "shooting" them...
they seem to believe that there was a greater chance of missing them, than of making them.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Or maybe in you opinion Coach Jones was thinking "Screw these guys. They missed all those free throws. They don't deserve to win. I sure as Hell am not going to call any timeouts to bail them out." 


Wtf are you talking about? All I'm saying is if free throws are made down the stretch then LSU would have won the game. NC State made the shot with literally .1 left on the clock. Even if it is moved to .3 you can't catch and shoot.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 3:07 pm to
There's no play to draw up for a full court pass tip in. The game was over after the made basket.

And what kind of play do you draw up to draw a foul? This is a ridiculous criticism.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
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NC State made the shot with literally .1 left on the clock. Even if it is moved to .3 you can't catch and shoot.




You're right, you can't catch the ball and then shoot it. But you can tip the ball with less than .03 seconds. The time out should have been called. The op is probably right that .05 seconds would have been placed on the clock. JJ should have set up a play setting a screen down the court to try and pick up a foul. If you don't get the foul, throw the ball the length of the court and try for a miracle shot or tip depending on what's on the clock. Any coach with half a brain would have at least called the TO.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18156 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 4:07 pm to
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Wouldnt have made a difference.


How the hell do you know that??? True, it's low odds, but we had time for a long pass and turn and shoot. At least give us a CHANCE.

Another example of Jones' poor in-game coaching.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18156 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 4:14 pm to
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Holy shite. Nothing is possible with .3 seconds.


Jesus, Jax. Nothing??? Really???

0.3 is enough time for a turn and shoot, according to the rules. At least heave it to half court and throw it up. Even if we only had 0.1, throw it full court and hope for a miracle.

Just don't quit.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 4:39 pm to
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