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re: Joe Alleva’s Tab
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
I agree with the outrage over hiring Orgeron, but the contract details were standard for an SEC coach, although extremely low (as it should've been).
The only outrage over the actual contract was by people who don't know anything.
The only outrage over the actual contract was by people who don't know anything.
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:24 am to WaWaWeeWa
You have miles firing as a pro and con
I’d consolidate the coach O hiring and coach O contract. Alleva signed about as basic a contract as you can for an SEC coach.
The rest is good.
I’d consolidate the coach O hiring and coach O contract. Alleva signed about as basic a contract as you can for an SEC coach.
The rest is good.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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The only outrage over the actual contract was by people who don't know anything.
He had zero. ZERO other coaching offers.
He had no leverage to negotiate any buyout much less the one he got. And he has a lengthy contract that should be enough for recruiting purposes, if he does well like he says the buyout shouldn’t even be in play. A buyout only pays out if you suck.
You think because other contracts have buyouts that it’s just standard. But every other coach has leverage. Tell me what leverage Orgeron had?
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 9:27 am
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:25 am to DEG
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You have miles firing as a pro and con
Let me clarify. It was a pro that he finally canned Miles. The con is how he handled it from a PR and foresight perspective.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:28 am to WaWaWeeWa
Cons:
Don't forget Nikki Fargas
Don't forget Nikki Fargas
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
Yes a big part. Graduation rate.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:33 am to WaWaWeeWa
scandal-free
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:44 am to WaWaWeeWa
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The con is how he handled it from a PR and foresight perspective.
I would keep the list to actual decisions he’s made. The outcome of “I’m the search” was the hiring of O, so including both seems redundant. But it’s your list (and a good one)
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:45 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Tell me what leverage Orgeron had?
He didn't need any. It was a basic fricking contract. Whether he should've gotten the job is another argument (he should not have) but once he got it, that's a pretty standard deal in the SEC, although way on the cheap side (as it should've been).
These contacts attempt to give legitimacy and stability in a very PR/media sensitive business. You don't cut the nuts off of your new coach by giving him no buyout. It's a bad look.
It's irrelevant anyway. Not sure why you are obsessed about it.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:47 am to FamousAmos
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scandal-free
I’m not adding this. That is expected of any highly paid upper level management position.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:48 am to WaWaWeeWa
Mike the Tiger changes? (Mike no longer coming into stadium) -- this seems to have people split in opinion though, and it's not something that particularly upsets me, and I'm not sure how much control Alleva has with this
Excessive piped in music
Shitty old TVs still in Tiger Stadium
Excessive piped in music
Shitty old TVs still in Tiger Stadium
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:49 am to WaWaWeeWa
Beth wasn’t his initial softball hire...he hired a coach that backed out.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:50 am to efrad
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Excessive piped in music
I think that’s been around once before Alleva?
quote:
Shitty old TVs still in Tiger Stadium
They are being replaced
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:54 am to DEG
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I would keep the list to actual decisions he’s made. The outcome of “I’m the search” was the hiring of O, so including both seems redundant. But it’s your list (and a good one)
I guess why I did it this way was because I don’t think the 2 decisions are one.
As far as “I am the search” I was referring to his hissy fit over the Herman/UT issue and not having a good plan after firing Miles early in the season. That was a bad look but he could have followed it up with a decent hire if he would have taken a deep breath
The next decision to hire Orgeron in my opinion is seperate. It wasn’t an obvious outcome.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Cons:
Nikki Fargas
Nikki Fargas, whose team has won eight in a row, and is 2-0 in the SEC...that Nikki Fargas? Because that hire looks pretty good right now.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:25 am to WaWaWeeWa
Firing Miles
CON - he freaked that situation up big time for over a year and it got us Orgeron.
CON - he freaked that situation up big time for over a year and it got us Orgeron.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:26 am to PUB
See firing Miles part 1 in the cons section
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:28 am to 00 Tech Grad
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Throwing Duke coach and players under the bus for a murderer who was convicted of falsely accusing the players of rape
This is why he should never have been hired in the first place.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:29 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Nikki Fargas, whose team has won eight in a row, and is 2-0 in the SEC...that Nikki Fargas? Because that hire looks pretty good right now.
7 years in and we finally started a season well. Best hire ever!
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:46 am to tom
If Ensminger is the OC does this go as a con against Alleva? Or does the blame fall on Orgeron?
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 10:47 am
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