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re: Joe Alleva on Non-Conf Games in Tiger Stadium
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:21 pm to TheBuescherMan
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:21 pm to TheBuescherMan
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I have a hard time believing we can't find anyone besides Texas and Syracuse who is willing to come here, especially since it means they'd get us coming to their stadium as well.
I do too, but our regular season OOC record over the last 10+ years speaks for itself. We probably have gotten resistance from some programs.
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Ohio St, a much more formidable team than us right now, has home/homes scheduled with VaTech, TCU, Oregon, ND, Oklahoma, Texas, and Boston College in the next decade.
Ohio State has done well in this regard, but I'm sure they understood the recent perception of the B1G when they scheduled those teams. Up until the B1G Championship Game last season, they were still outside of the top 4 because their schedule was considered to be garbage.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:22 pm to feedthepig20
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I flat out don't believe Joe. I can't believe so many here are blindly believing this.
I don't either.
Bama-Penn St
Texas-Ohio State
UCLA-Tennessee
Florida St-Oklahoma
Oklahoma-Tennessee
Oklahoma-Notre Dame
Florida St- Notre Dame
Ohio State-Va Tech
Ohio State-Miami
Ohio State-USC
USC-Nebraska
Michigan St-Oregon
Nebraska-Miami
Nebraska-UCLA
The list goes on and on.
How come these traditional powers find ways to play home and homes, yet teams like LSU/Florida/Michigan/Georgia you never see playing other traditional powers in home and homes?
At least Florida can say the play FSU, Michigan usually plays Notre Dame, Georgia has Ga Tech every year.
When is the last time LSU played an away game at a traditional powers home stadium? One where fans see that team on the schedule and say, i would love to see my tigers play in that stadium against that quality opponent.
I think it's obvious that those 4 schools are not really interested in playing big marquee home and homes outside of Michigan/Notre Dame and Florida/FSU or Miami, or the neutral site opening game.
You can't tell me Penn State is scared to come to Tiger Stadium, but they'll go to Bama.
LSU-Michigan is just too big of a story for TV to not be played soon. It's just stupid that we haven't played them. ever.
I can't imagine a bigger OOC hyped up game than that one, even for the non LSU/Mich fans.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
We had home and home with WVU recently. In the next decade we have Syracuse, Texas, Arizona State, UCLA and Oklahoma.
Unfortunately, the OU games have already been pushed back. That happens and schedules change all the time in college football. All these other future OOC matchups across the country aren't set in stone either.
Unfortunately, the OU games have already been pushed back. That happens and schedules change all the time in college football. All these other future OOC matchups across the country aren't set in stone either.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:52 pm to nvasil1
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We had home and home with WVU recently. In the next decade we have Syracuse, Texas, Arizona State, UCLA and Oklahoma.
I know what we have had.
No one cares about Syracuse, or Maryland, or Arizona State(again)
Texas/UCLA/Oklahoma or legit, and I'll believe it when it happens.
It's obvious what we want out of our "big" OOC game. To play a middle of the road Pac12 or ACC school, like Zona/Washington/Oregon St/ASU/Syracuse/Maryland, so it appears we are scheduling a decent opponent, but we know we aren't losing.
And I don't mind playing those schools, but every 4 years or so, I want a big time marquee home and home. Michigan/OSU/PennSt/Nebraska/Texas/Oklahoma/USC/Oregon/Notre Dame/Miami/FSU/Wisconsin in a true home and home, no neutral site crap.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:06 pm to TeddyPadillac
EXACTLY...well said, and NO reason this cannot be done.....UNLESS, all the admin. is interested in is $ and don't give a crap about season ticket holders and the local 'economy'
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
Well, you said we're one of the schools that "never" schedules these type of games and asked when our last home and home with a big name was...
I want to see the huge programs come to TS too, but it seems like the hate for Alleva leads people to believe we're the only program in the country that doesn't try to play anyone, which isn't true.
I want to see the huge programs come to TS too, but it seems like the hate for Alleva leads people to believe we're the only program in the country that doesn't try to play anyone, which isn't true.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:31 pm to medtiger
quote:Partly true. It is definitely all about money. However, LSU made more money off of 2 neutral site games (Houston & Lambeau) than they would off of 1 home game and 1 away game at Camp Randall (but don't make more money off 1 neutral than a home game.) Money and money alone is why LSU wants these neutral site games.
It's about making money. LSU made more money on the Wisconsin game in Houston than they would have if it was played in Tiger Stadium, and they'll obviously make more money playing at a "neutral site" in Wisconsin (Lambeau) than they would've playing in Camp Randall.
Joe is full of shite using Wisconsin and TCU as examples of having to play these neutral games. TCU was ALREADY on the schedule for a home and home before LSU changed it to 1 neutral game. Wisconsin's has publically said that LSU REFUSED a home/home series. These teams don't fear playing LSU at home, LSU would rather do neutral game for MONEY. Screw season ticket holders. Pathetic actually.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:42 pm to ArcticFox
The neutral site games always seem to have a partisan crowd. Why do you agree to have your arse beat in Houston but not Baton Rouge? Is Wisconsin really making recruiting inroads in Houston?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:49 pm to ArcticFox
I love Joe's speaking-out, lately.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:00 pm to spiderman
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Wisconsin's has publically said that LSU REFUSED a home/home series
I love how people immediately dismiss anything LSU's AD says, but take as gospel something an AD at another school says.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:07 pm to nvasil1
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Well, you said we're one of the schools that "never" schedules these type of games and asked when our last home and home with a big name was...
While West Virginia and Virginia Tech are very quality opponents, they aren't big marquee teams. We are expected to beat them.
Playing Texas and Oklahoma in the future will be awesome, as long as they stay as true home and homes. College football isn't the NFL and it should keep it's pageantry, which is on college campuses, not nfl stadiums.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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While West Virginia and Virginia Tech are very quality opponents, they aren't big marquee teams. We are expected to beat them
I get what you're saying. They aren't blue bloods of the sport like OU or Texas, but that shouldn't be a knock against our OOC scheduling.
How many "marquee" teams are out there for us to schedule? Of the 11 FBS schools ahead of us in all-time wins, 3 are from the SEC and 2 are OU and Texas.
Just behind us are WVU, VT and Washington, including more SEC opponents, obviously teams we have played recently.
Again, I want to see the biggest programs in TS, but every school has their own scheduling agendas. Alleva just can't cherry pick who he wants like a NCAA video game dynasty.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:25 pm to ArcticFox
We'll be playing at 2:30 on Thanksgiving Day within three years. Fact.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:24 pm to Choupique19
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My first thought is, "Come on Joe, we lose lots of games."
Hmmmm. Really? What program have you watched the last decade?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:26 pm to Wayne Campbell
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I love how people immediately dismiss anything LSU's AD says, but take as gospel something an AD at another school says.
When your AD is an excuse making, money grabbing liar that makes it easy to dismiss.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:58 pm to nvasil1
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Alleva just can't cherry pick who he wants like a NCAA video game dynasty.
Understood. But by the time Syracuse comes here in 2017, it will have been 5 years…FIVE YEARS… since a Power 5 school has played in Tiger Stadium (Washington 2012) To go back even further, from 2008-2016, there will have been only two Power 5 schools to play in Baton Rouge, the other being WV in 2010. While I agree scheduling may be a difficult task, you have to admit that is not a very good trend.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:30 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Understood. But by the time Syracuse comes here in 2017, it will have been 5 years…FIVE YEARS… since a Power 5 school has played in Tiger Stadium (Washington 2012) To go back even further, from 2008-2016, there will have been only two Power 5 schools to play in Baton Rouge, the other being WV in 2010. While I agree scheduling may be a difficult task, you have to admit that is not a very good trend.
I'll admit, it hasn't been a good trend. I'm not saying I'm happy with it. But I'm not going to give Alleva shite for not trying to schedule more P5 schools.
There are prominent programs on the future schedule right now. I just don't understand why, when our AD says he can't get 80% of schools to commit, he is automatically considered to be full of shite. How many teams want to play us in Death Valley if they don't have to, particularly with our OOC record?
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:38 am to BayouBengals03
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Oklahoma managed 25 or 30% of the dome in 2004. As did tOSU in 2008.
And Alabama had about 55% in Jan 2012.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:19 am to bherm1988
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This is why I would love the 9 game conference schedule one less cupcake.
Season Tickets are almost worthless when you have to watch THREE OOC "Sisters of the Poor" in Tiger Stadium every year.
That's why a higher % are dropping their ST's with each passing year. Not worth paying the assorted fees and surcharges to see the absolute rabble of college football come in.
Of course, if you drop your ST's, you will not have a guaranteed seat to the Alabama game every other year and will not be able to use the "I'm an LSU Season Ticket Holder" as a status symbol.
As well, if you give em up, they'll be gobbled up by "Corporate Interests" and the disgusting/gross "Sanitation" of Tiger Stadium will continue as the tickets are used by the "See and Be Seen, Wine & Cheese, Half-time Departing" creatures that are becoming predominant in the stadium now.
......Posted on 5/20/15 at 7:11 am to feedthepig20
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When your AD is an excuse making, money grabbing liar
Again, people in here are treating the words of Barry Alvarez as gospel. But I'm sure he wouldn't say anything false to make himself look better.
Fact is Joe Alleva, like many an LSU coach or administrator, can do no good in the eyes of some people in the "fan" base.
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