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Posted on 2/2/10 at 11:56 am to TIGRLEE
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I'll never be so happy to see a player turn 20.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 11:59 am to DBG
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Maybe in your personal life
but that has nothing to do with his onfield play
and can we finally drop the age argument?
Not until you give me a list of 19 year old QBs that have won championships.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:00 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
quote:were you responding to me?
LSUSUPERSTAR
I was commenting that 1 year was enough for Less to evaluate JL enough to sit him, why wouldn't it be enough to evaluate JJ..
I so no real significant progression in JJ last year. one of the only things i saw as progress is, he stopped taking such a deep drop and allowing the D ends to come straight up field at him..
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:02 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
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LSUSUPERSTAR
Nothing like some cold hard facts.
Knockers you should take some time and study over this guy's post and Get back with me.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:05 pm to MightyYat
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Not until you give me a list of 19 year old QBs that have won championships.
I'll admit Im not the know it all that many of you here are, but I am pretty positive this was never part of the discussion.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:06 pm to TIGRLEE
Can we all agree that while JJ did improve, he still has a lot of work to do. I'm a JJ fan and can acknowledge that fact without declaring him washed-up and incapable of getting better.
And for the record, I don't think we have to keep rehashing this. It's clear that he didn't meet some fans' expectations for improvement. I personally think he did fine, but some reasonable people are going to disagree. Some unreasonable people are going to disagree as well. Where I draw the line between disagreement and what I consider obtuseness is the argument that someone else should or will start over him. The "should" is really pushing it. The "will" is ridiculous. There's no way anyone starts if JJ is healthy and eligible.
So get behind him.
And for the record, I don't think we have to keep rehashing this. It's clear that he didn't meet some fans' expectations for improvement. I personally think he did fine, but some reasonable people are going to disagree. Some unreasonable people are going to disagree as well. Where I draw the line between disagreement and what I consider obtuseness is the argument that someone else should or will start over him. The "should" is really pushing it. The "will" is ridiculous. There's no way anyone starts if JJ is healthy and eligible.
So get behind him.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:07 pm to TiegerTim
I was just commenting on the thread in general and you were the last to post at the time.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:07 pm to MightyYat
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Not until you give me a list of 19 year old QBs that have won championships.
I don't think it is a matter of him winning a championship last year. It has to do with him looking confused on the field which he did from game 1 to the Capital One bowl. A QB should be in control and know the game situation, which it was obvious he did not. When are we as fans ok with squeaking by poor teams. He has not looked confortable or like a leader this whole year.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:09 pm to Navytiger74
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Navytiger74
Pretty good post.
I dont agree with it all but you seem reasonable.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:10 pm to Jdawgz
Always must have open battles unless they are making gazzilions of $ or are carrying All-American status.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:10 pm to MightyYat
What a ridiculous argument
I guess being 20 is a prereq for being any good
I guess being 20 is a prereq for being any good
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:12 pm to knockers
Only way to keep them having the WANT to improve and getting better
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:12 pm to DBG
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What a ridiculous argument
I guess being 20 is a prereq for being any good
No, but he'll have a complete year under his belt and 2 full years in the system. If the light doesn't come on next year we're in trouble.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:20 pm to Jdawgz
so jj didn't look.like a leader when he led us down the field to tie ole miss. he didn't look like a leader leading us down the field against uga( the drive before scott's run). he didn't look like a leader agaainst ark. when he led us down the field rto tie the game. don't just make shite up
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:20 pm to MightyYat
I believe this thread relates to last year, doesn't apply to "age." There are times JJ looked better than others, but over all his play was consistent or worse as the year progressed. I contribute this to a number of things mainly a crappy coaching staff who is ruining QB's and the lack of an experienced incumbent QB to learn behind. But overall, no...JJ didn't improve.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:22 pm to TIGRLEE
Pay attention! Responded to you and Nuts4Lsu. Not LSUSUPERSTAR. JJ's stat report does't tell the story of improvement. So not sure if a response to that would serve any purpose.
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:27 pm to CAJUN LSU MAN
Anyone who didn't see improvement is an idiot frick. I've posted the stats plenty of times and even compared his year to Jamarcus in 2005 and Flynn in 2007. Unfortunately, the majority of the people that join in on this debate are morons. OMG let's start Chris Garrett because he's obviously gonna throw 30 TDs with 0 INTs!
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