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JJ and Terrelle Pryor
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:52 am
Below is from CBS Sports.com. What is said here also fits with JJ>
What to Do With Terrelle the Terrible
by Law Buckeye on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM CDT in Ohio State 13 comments
Last week I asked what was wrong with Terrelle Pryor. This week I know what is wrong with Terrelle Pryor.
Pryor's dysfunction can be broken into three distinct categories:
Throwing
•Can't throw a short spiral to save his life. Result? More incomplete passes out of the backfield than I care to count.
•Hooks his arm release like a tournament fisherman trying to jerk a bass out of the water, only in reverse. Result? Pegs the ball at the ground, forcing receivers to dive or "touch their toes" to pick up the ball. Dramatically limits yard pickup after the catch.
•Can't lead his receivers on middle routes. Result? Incomplete/broken up passes. Interceptions.
•Doesn't adjust his "snap" on his release for the speed and length of the throw. Result? More turf bullets than I care to count.
•Stares at his chosen receiver like a teenage boy ogling cleavage. Result? Linebackers have an easy time keying in on and jumping routes.
Decision-Making:
•Stands in the pocket for too long checking off multiple receivers. Hesitates to take off on the ground. Result? Gets beat to the sideline by outside linebackers. Routinely tackled close to the line of scrimmage on scrambles.
•Throws lazy deep balls (a.k.a. "arm punts" Hat Tip: BSD) into double-coverage. Result? Allows free safeties ample time to close and make a play.
Psychology:
•Pounds the turf in frustration after sacks. Hangs his head on the sidelines. Allows the game to get to him. Result? Interferes with the "muscle memory" component of mechanics making it difficult for Pryor to replicate what he did in practice during live play. Makes it difficult to recover from mistakes as a game progresses.
The combination of these raw tendencies and others has seen a signature talent devolve into a scarecrow. Don't delude yourself. Pryor is getting worse every week. The question now is what to do about it.
What to Do With Terrelle the Terrible
by Law Buckeye on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM CDT in Ohio State 13 comments
Last week I asked what was wrong with Terrelle Pryor. This week I know what is wrong with Terrelle Pryor.
Pryor's dysfunction can be broken into three distinct categories:
Throwing
•Can't throw a short spiral to save his life. Result? More incomplete passes out of the backfield than I care to count.
•Hooks his arm release like a tournament fisherman trying to jerk a bass out of the water, only in reverse. Result? Pegs the ball at the ground, forcing receivers to dive or "touch their toes" to pick up the ball. Dramatically limits yard pickup after the catch.
•Can't lead his receivers on middle routes. Result? Incomplete/broken up passes. Interceptions.
•Doesn't adjust his "snap" on his release for the speed and length of the throw. Result? More turf bullets than I care to count.
•Stares at his chosen receiver like a teenage boy ogling cleavage. Result? Linebackers have an easy time keying in on and jumping routes.
Decision-Making:
•Stands in the pocket for too long checking off multiple receivers. Hesitates to take off on the ground. Result? Gets beat to the sideline by outside linebackers. Routinely tackled close to the line of scrimmage on scrambles.
•Throws lazy deep balls (a.k.a. "arm punts" Hat Tip: BSD) into double-coverage. Result? Allows free safeties ample time to close and make a play.
Psychology:
•Pounds the turf in frustration after sacks. Hangs his head on the sidelines. Allows the game to get to him. Result? Interferes with the "muscle memory" component of mechanics making it difficult for Pryor to replicate what he did in practice during live play. Makes it difficult to recover from mistakes as a game progresses.
The combination of these raw tendencies and others has seen a signature talent devolve into a scarecrow. Don't delude yourself. Pryor is getting worse every week. The question now is what to do about it.
This post was edited on 10/22/09 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:17 pm to Six Saint
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Stares at his chosen receiver like a teenage boy ogling cleavage.
That quote is money.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:20 pm to Six Saint
Wow. Just wow. Change the names, and it would be pretty spot on. Except for the part about getting tackled close to the line of scrimmage. 
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:23 pm to Commando
No way the part about pouting applies to JJ. I don't think Les would stand for that.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:27 pm to bertman4pres
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No way the part about pouting applies to JJ. I don't think Les would stand for that.
How did JJ skip out on the media after the Fla game then?
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:29 pm to TIsuGGER
I said this after last week. Many parallels.
Primarily the long awkward release and staring down the receiver.
Both teams offense having an identity crisis.
Primarily the long awkward release and staring down the receiver.
Both teams offense having an identity crisis.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:32 pm to TIsuGGER
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How did JJ skip out on the media after the Fla game then?
The OP is talking about Pryor's on field composure. JJ is composed on the field. You're going to need a pic and link to prove otherwise.
This post was edited on 10/22/09 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:42 pm to LSUNO
JJ is composed on the field. Are you freaking kidding? He refused to run a PA pass against Georgia with the game on the line. Of course a descent coach would have started looking for a different QB when this happened.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:47 pm to DONHOGG
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Pounds the turf in frustration after sacks. Hangs his head on the sidelines. Allows the game to get to him.
=/=
quote:
He refused to run a PA pass against Georgia
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:47 pm to DONHOGG
wow...unbelievable
thats not what happened.
not even close.....i bet you tell other uninformed tiger fans that account, dont you? spreading the disease of ignorance, as it were.
youre part of the problem.
thats not what happened.
not even close.....i bet you tell other uninformed tiger fans that account, dont you? spreading the disease of ignorance, as it were.
youre part of the problem.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:52 pm to prplngldtigr
I think it's embarrassing to talk about a kid this way. The same people that hyped him up are now the ones bashing him because he's not living up to their predictions. Say the kid needs to grow more, say he may not be ready, but it's pretty embarrashing to bash a kid in this manner when he's just trying to play ball.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 12:54 pm to Six Saint
Terrelle Pryor should be kicking himself in the arse twice a day for not going to Michigan. Rich Rod knows how to use a QB with his skills.
I agree with the analysis, but I think it stems more from misuse than a talent issue. If Tebow was playing in a different system, he wouldn't be as good. Pryor does not fit into Ohio State's system.
I agree with the analysis, but I think it stems more from misuse than a talent issue. If Tebow was playing in a different system, he wouldn't be as good. Pryor does not fit into Ohio State's system.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:04 pm to Bubba Hotep
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I think it's embarrassing to talk about a kid this way. The same people that hyped him up are now the ones bashing him because he's not living up to their predictions. Say the kid needs to grow more, say he may not be ready, but it's pretty embarrashing to bash a kid in this manner when he's just trying to play ball.
This
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:12 pm to Shotime
Pryor has more issues passing than JJ. Pryor is a better runner, however.
JJ is not horribly inaccurate. In my opinion, he just is uncomfortable throwing unless the receiver is embarrassingly wide open and has difficulty picking up the second and third reads in a progression when the first option is covered.
JJ is not horribly inaccurate. In my opinion, he just is uncomfortable throwing unless the receiver is embarrassingly wide open and has difficulty picking up the second and third reads in a progression when the first option is covered.
Posted on 10/22/09 at 1:28 pm to Six Saint
blame the coaching staff. you have to build your offense around the strength of these players. so many coaches try to fit a square peg in a round hole. nothing wrong with the qb. what are you asking him to do?
never watched that much of texas, but give mack brown credit - he let vince young be vince young.
same for beamer at va tech with mike vick and this year's axelrod.
they are what they are. if you let them use their strengths - scrambling and improvising- you will reap the rewards. don't try to run a regular offense. that's my opinion.
Heck, give urban meyer credit. how many coaches would be letting tebow run the offense he is running. how many would be running the I with drop back passing?
never watched that much of texas, but give mack brown credit - he let vince young be vince young.
same for beamer at va tech with mike vick and this year's axelrod.
they are what they are. if you let them use their strengths - scrambling and improvising- you will reap the rewards. don't try to run a regular offense. that's my opinion.
Heck, give urban meyer credit. how many coaches would be letting tebow run the offense he is running. how many would be running the I with drop back passing?
This post was edited on 10/22/09 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/22/09 at 2:39 pm to stephendomalley
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blame the coaching staff. you have to build your offense around the strength of these players
+1
Pryor must feel like dogshit for not going to Michigan, but I guess he assumed the coaching staff was inventive enough to adjust the offense...
Posted on 10/22/09 at 2:43 pm to DONHOGG
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He refused to run a PA pass against Georgia with the game on the line.
there we go again, changing the past.
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