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Jarrett Lee and Matthew Stafford
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:38 pm
Matthew Stafford had 7 TDs 13 ints and 12 sacks with 256 attempts his freshman year..Jarrett Lee had 13 TDs 16 ints and 8 sacks with 269 attempts his freshman year. FWIW JL had a slightly better completion percentage than Stafford, and if you take away the pick 6's their isnt much difference in the 2.
If this has already been brought up, i apologize. I keep seeing people use JLs performance from last year to justify keeping him benched THIS YEAR. All i am saying is young players DO improve, and theres nothing wrong with giving JL a series or 2 in each game. Stafford turned out OK in the end.
If this has already been brought up, i apologize. I keep seeing people use JLs performance from last year to justify keeping him benched THIS YEAR. All i am saying is young players DO improve, and theres nothing wrong with giving JL a series or 2 in each game. Stafford turned out OK in the end.
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:39 pm to magicman0001
Most here agree with you.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:41 pm to magicman0001
quote:Yeah, and if you turned all of JJ's sacks into completions, he would be Tim Tebow.
and if you take away the pick 6's
I'm all for giving JL some snaps, but I think your argument needs some work.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:44 pm to SlyCorley98
100% nobody is saying put jj on the bench.Just give JL a fair shot at playing time
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:44 pm to magicman0001
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Matthew Stafford had 7 TDs 13 ints and 12 sacks with 256 attempts his freshman year..Jarrett Lee had 13 TDs 16 ints and 8 sacks with 269 attempts his redshirt freshman year.
There is a bit of a difference there. Also, Stafford was a much higher rated QB coming out of high school. Lee could turn it around like Stafford did, but it will be harder for him considering he doesn't have the same physical tools.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:44 pm to magicman0001
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"This TEAM is out of order...this CONFERENCE is out of order...the whole f**kin' BCS is out of order!"
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:45 pm to Zombie Tiger
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your argument needs some work.
i think my argument speaks for itself. even if you leave the pick 6's theyre still ints. Stafford had 3 less ints. with 12 less throws..not to mention 7 less TDs. The argument is just fine as it is, TY
TY DOC!!
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:46 pm to magicman0001
We got JJ who WILL NOT throw it.
And we got JL who WILL NOT get hit.
And we got both of em drifting back into a five step drop with no route development against some of the best defenses in college football.
Nothing could go wrong here..............could it?
And we got JL who WILL NOT get hit.
And we got both of em drifting back into a five step drop with no route development against some of the best defenses in college football.
Nothing could go wrong here..............could it?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:48 pm to magicman0001
I think at this point, now that JJ is getting some experience...why not throw both our qb's and RS into the mix? This couldn't do anything but help, and I'm almost sure it will open up opportunities with the run. JJ, JL and RS have their individual strengths..lets' use them!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:48 pm to magicman0001
Wow, do you enjoy comparing apples and oranges? First, Stafford was a TR FR while Pick 6 was a RS FR. Second, Stafford's bad portion of the year was the first part of the season...he actually improved...Pick 6 showed no noticeable improvement...in fact as the competition got tougher, teams started returning his passes for TDs. Next!!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:49 pm to Doc Fenton
The problem is the o line Dandy don made some good suggestions this morning.
When Blackwell came in v. ga we were able to run.
Our backup center is about 50 pounds and 3 inches taller then t-bob.
If you watched fl last year lee got way more protection then jj.
When Blackwell came in v. ga we were able to run.
Our backup center is about 50 pounds and 3 inches taller then t-bob.
If you watched fl last year lee got way more protection then jj.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:50 pm to natethegreat
Wow, the random chaos principle. Didn't Carl Sagan disprove that before he passed away?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:53 pm to gotygers
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The problem is the o line Dandy don made some good suggestions this morning.
When Blackwell came in v. ga we were able to run.
I thought the same thing, and gave alot of drunken props to Blackwell.
Sober rewatching of the game it looked like he got pushed around quite a bit.
So I dont know that it was anything other than a coincidence.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:55 pm to Tomm
Both lee and jj got worse as the season progressed. Why?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:59 pm to thanksjhester
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nobody is saying put jj on the bench.Just give JL a fair shot at playing time
I don't think it's even about giving the guy a fair shot at playing time. It's about making sure that we aren't constantly in this situation. The only way we'll ever know if JLee is ready to go is by putting him in a damn game.
The only way we're going to be prepared in the event that JJ gets hurt is by getting Lee some quality snaps in a game situation. Thank God that didn't happen against Florida. Lee needs the work just so he can be ready when called, and that may come soon enough. With as many hits as JJ takes because of the sacks, it stands to reason that on one of those plays, he's gonna get his bell rung.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:01 pm to Tomm
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Stafford's bad portion of the year was the first part of the season
If you want to point something out, at least do your research to support your claims. While its true Stafford was a true freshman that started school early like Shep did here, he struggled with ints. throughout the year. His last 2 games had an int in each (including the bowl game)
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:01 pm to magicman0001
The only reason people are so hard on Jarrett Lee are purely the Pick 6's and the Alabama game. If we win the Bama game, he's still starting QB. If the team makes a little effort on just 2 or 3 of his pick 6's, the kid wouldn't be so hated. He actually did play well at times. Hell, against UGA, he threw a Pick 6 on the first play, and then came right back and drove us down for a TD.
Just imagine what he'd be like if he actually had a QB coach worth a shite instead of Crowton.
Just imagine what he'd be like if he actually had a QB coach worth a shite instead of Crowton.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:03 pm to GeauxBob
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If the team makes a little effort on just 2 or 3 of his pick 6's, the kid wouldn't be so hated.
which ones in particular?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:05 pm to GeauxBob
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QB coach
This is the key to any of our young QBs having success, not just JL.
LSU has a TE coach but not a QB coach. That is all.
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