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Posted on 3/14/09 at 6:59 pm to TrojaninLV
I said players.....
Read the thread. As a fan, you can blame who ever want, but it doesn't change a thing. If you honestly believe that the officials did a fine job today, then you didn't watch the game. Period. Did it cost lsu the game? It didn't help, but neither did the poor shooting. I get frustrated because poor officiating takes away from the enjoyment of watching the game.
Read the thread. As a fan, you can blame who ever want, but it doesn't change a thing. If you honestly believe that the officials did a fine job today, then you didn't watch the game. Period. Did it cost lsu the game? It didn't help, but neither did the poor shooting. I get frustrated because poor officiating takes away from the enjoyment of watching the game.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 7:22 pm to BulkLogan1
Bulk Logan: So what you're saying is that the players have a more mature, realistic, objective ability to accurately assess what the main factors are that contribute to a loss and that obsessive, irrational, biased fans such as yourself do not. I'll agree with you on this.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 7:38 pm to TrojaninLV
It was 90% officiating. Anyone who doesnn't see that is a complete moron and should go play in traffic instead of watching basketball. When you the team you are playing have over 30 free throws and you only less than 15, there is something fishy about that. Don't think for once that the SEC is trying to get more of their teams in the tourney than just LSU, Auburn and Tennessee
Posted on 3/14/09 at 7:49 pm to TrojaninLV
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Link? Are you reading this thread or just picking out the SoCal fan to respond to?
I read this thread and haven't seen anything from King Joey indicating that he thinks there is some sort of conspiracy. I see him expressing an opinion that in this game, the officiating was poor and unbalanced against LSU. I tend to agree with that.
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Maybe you can find someone to explain to you what King Joey is saying.
I'm asking you to show examples of where King Joey has done this previously. I know he hasn't done it in this thread. But, since you so adamently state that he does this frequently, you ought to be able to show some evidence.
...or, you may have just been talking out of your arse. I'm pretty sure that's the case, but I'll give you a shot to offer evidence.
This post was edited on 3/14/09 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 3/14/09 at 7:56 pm to Lee Chatelain
Lee bingo you hit the nail on the head. The ones who are saying the officating had nothing to do with this did not watch the game and are going by the score. Those are the same ones though that claim to know everything but have never watched a game in their live. Its always very obivous. Did it cost the game? I dont know its hard to say. Did it effect the game? Defintly hand down no doubt.
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It's NOT the officiating ....
It was 90% officiating. Anyone who doesnn't see that is a complete moron and should go play in traffic instead of watching basketball. When you the team you are playing have over 30 free throws and you only less than 15, there is something fishy about that. Don't think for once that the SEC is trying to get more of their teams in the tourney than just LSU, Auburn and Tennessee
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:17 pm to TrojaninLV
quote:Other than being completely false, good point.
The sad and scary part of this thread is that King Joey actually subscribes to the theory that there is some kind of conspiracy against LSU sports teams carried out by the officials.
What I do subscribe to is the view that the utterly baseless assumption that the referees can never be guilty of wrongdoing when members of every other human aspect of sports are routinely found to be cheating is completely absurd. Referees are human beings, complete with whole personalities and everything, right down to petty biases, subconscious preferences, corruptable weakness, etc. All the things that lead other people to act in biased and improper ways can also apply to referees. But there are some astonishingly stupid people who still insist on reacting to any suggestion that it might have actually happed with derision and scorn.
quote:That would be because I don't suggest that LSU is singled out. Lots and lots of teams are screwed by bad officiating. Sometimes teams are screwed by bad officiating when they are playing against LSU. The pervasive nature of the bad officiating has been a major part of my complaint for longer than you have existed (assuming an age appropriate to the intellect of your posts). If it were just LSU being singled out, it would be far more obvious and serve far less purpose.
Of course, he never offers any sound evidence for how and why this occurs and why LSU sports teams are singled out.
But of course, what's reality or truth going to matter to someone like you, who believes saints walk the earth in black and white striped uniforms carrying whistles and never ever making mistakes.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:19 pm to TrojaninLV
quote:Coming from you, this really begs for a giant sized "Irony" emoticon.
Maybe you can find someone to explain to you what King Joey is saying.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:24 pm to sml71
quote:Yes, that is strange, considering how often the fans of winning teams point out bad officiating as well. Of course, I guess you just wouldn't label that as "whining". That's pretty circular reasoning, though.
Strange how I never hear the winners whining about how terrible the officiating was
As I mentioned in another thread, though, there's no mystery as to why winning teams fans comment less frequently about bad officiating than losing fans. There are two obvious and logical reasons:
1) to the extent the officiating in a game is bad, the team that wins would logically more often have gotten the benefit of the bad officiating; and
2) winning teams' fans are less likely to complain about anything that went wrong in a game. To reuse my example from another thread, if you have a team shoot 45% from the freethrow line and win, their fans are less likely to bitch about the bad freethrow shooting than the fans of a team that shoots 45% and loses.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:26 pm to King Joey
I watched the game here at a bar in NOLA. There was a group of Duke fans there for a bachelor party waiting for their game to start. I never spoke to them, just overheard their conversation.
Almost every time it looked like a foul against either LSU or MSU, one of them would scream foul.
At the end of the game, they saw me all pissed off, and two of the guys came up to me. They said it was easily one of the worst officiated games they had seen, and that I shouldn't be upset because the refs were obviously trying to get another SEC team into the tourny.
I know LSUplayed poorly, but, when other fans talk about how bad the calls were in the other teams favor, you have to acknowledge it.
Almost every time it looked like a foul against either LSU or MSU, one of them would scream foul.
At the end of the game, they saw me all pissed off, and two of the guys came up to me. They said it was easily one of the worst officiated games they had seen, and that I shouldn't be upset because the refs were obviously trying to get another SEC team into the tourny.
I know LSUplayed poorly, but, when other fans talk about how bad the calls were in the other teams favor, you have to acknowledge it.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:27 pm to King Joey
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Lots and lots of teams are screwed by bad officiating.......................
Gee, do you think this might be a result of what you conspicuously point out earlier in your post -that "Referees are human beings?" Maybe, just maybe, they make mistakes just like every other human being walking around on this planet (except you, no doubt) and it has absolutely nothing to do with "subconscious preferences, corruptable weakness, etc." Oh my gosh. That would put the kibosh on your conspiracy theories. Can't have that, now can we?
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:29 pm to King Joey
The fact is that the SEC refs are incompetent. But LSU kept driving the lane when Vanardo was owning everyone and everything that came in. We lost the game, not because of the incompetent fools in striped shirts, but because we kept doing the same stupid thing with the same stupid result. We also lost because it is very hard to beat a good team three times in one season. The good news is that hopefully, we won't be playing Mississippi State, and won't be seeing any SEC officials in the NCAA tournament.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:31 pm to BgwinLSU
Hey the zebras didn't miss the shots we took we did, but a 3 to 1 ration of their shots to ours is what killed us.
MSU was hacking us with no penalties, and their inside guy walked about 7 times when he was pushing Chris under the basket moving his feet and it didn't get called once. They called the same thing on us a couple of times.
We'll see how things turn out next week. That's when it counts.
MSU was hacking us with no penalties, and their inside guy walked about 7 times when he was pushing Chris under the basket moving his feet and it didn't get called once. They called the same thing on us a couple of times.
We'll see how things turn out next week. That's when it counts.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:34 pm to BgwinLSU
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It's NOT the officiating ....
Let our clueless RANTards blame the officals. They need to blame someone, and trashing the officials is better than trashing our players or our coaching staff. Blaming the officals is harmless; our players and coaching staff need to be protected from the clueless--
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:34 pm to King Joey
To all of you who are constantly whining about the "poor officiating" after your losses: Misery loves company. Just visit the board(s) of any other losing team across the country (good place to start: Arizona St. They lost to my Trojans today and, of course, it was the fault of the referees.) Don't stop there. Go to the NC, UConn, UCLA, Oklahoma, Auburn, Michigan St, etc., etc. boards and you will quickly realize that these corruptible officials are all around us. I think we should cancel all college athletics, as I have come to the conclusion from browsing this board as well as others that there are no good officials anywhere on the planet. Pathetic.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:35 pm to TrojaninLV
quote:Of course they do. That is my entire point. Good job mocking your own position, jackass.
Maybe, just maybe, they make mistakes just like every other human being walking around on this planet
quote:Thanks, but your belief in my infallability is as foolhardy as most everything else you have posted here.
(except you, no doubt)
quote:Everyone makes mistakes. Often those mistakes are the result of involuntary preferences, biases of which we ourselves are unaware, or weaknesses that allow others to influence us badly. That is as true of referees as it is of anyone else.
and it has absolutely nothing to do with "subconscious preferences, corruptable weakness, etc."
quote:No, what puts the kibosh on "my" conspiracy theory is the fact that I don't have one. But at the rate you are spraying out idiotic posts to argue against such a conspiracy claim that hasn't even been made, clearly YOU believe there is such a conspiracy, and are actually deluded enough to think that it needs YOU to "protect" it.
Oh my gosh. That would put the kibosh on your conspiracy theories.
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:42 pm to LSUexile
quote:
The fact is that the SEC refs are incompetent
"won't be seeing any SEC officials in the NCAA tournament."
I've got news for you. Fans from the Pac-10, Big-12, Big East, Big-10, ACC and virtually every other conference in the country are saying the same things about their officials. So, how do you propose to officiate the hundred + games in the upcoming tourney when there are no good officials available? I'd love to hear your solution to this "problem."
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Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:44 pm to TrojaninLV
quote:Ironically, in your attempt at sarcasm, you come closer to a rational point here than you did in several previous posts of bullshite invention combined.
I have come to the conclusion from browsing this board as well as others that there are no good officials anywhere on the planet.
It is highly likely that many, many officials are out there who consistently call games evenly with a bare minimum of occassions where their mistakes happen to significantly favor one team over another. What is absolutely clear to anyone with eyes and a brain is that not all officials are like that. However, there still remain a laughable, absurd few like yourself who still go into absolute berzerk panic mode whenever the slightest suggestion is offered that maybe, just possibly, the outcome of some game might have been affected in the least by mistakes by the official. Here in this very thread I made such a suggestion and your panic response was to invent a global conspiracy theory and a singling out of LSU in an attempt to ridicule the notion. Why? Are you seriously deluded enough to believe that it can never happen? Or are you just so conditioned by the opinion makers and peer pressure to the kneejerk reaction of mocking the idea no matter what, without any regard to whether the claim may be legitimate or not?
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:44 pm to Bad Cat
quote:
It's NOT the officiating ....
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Bad yes they need to be protected from morons like yourself. Dude besides TigerPhan you maybe the biggest idiot with no clue of basketball alive.
It's NOT the officiating ....
Let our clueless RANTards blame the officals. They need to blame someone, and trashing the officials is better than trashing our players or our coaching staff. Blaming the officals is harmless; our players and coaching staff need to be protected from the clueless--
Posted on 3/14/09 at 8:46 pm to TrojaninLV
Tro what is pathetic is an idiot like you who did not watch 1 second of the game and are acting like you know what happen. If your going to post on here moron at least watch the games to know what happen. Better yet go back to the USWho blogs where you belong and let the adults chat.
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It's NOT the officiating ....
To all of you who are constantly whining about the "poor officiating" after your losses: Misery loves company. Just visit the board(s) of any other losing team across the country (good place to start: Arizona St. They lost to my Trojans today and, of course, it was the fault of the referees.) Don't stop there. Go to the NC, UConn, UCLA, Oklahoma, Auburn, Michigan St, etc., etc. boards and you will quickly realize that these corruptible officials are all around us. I think we should cancel all college athletics, as I have come to the conclusion from browsing this board as well as others that there are no good officials anywhere on the planet. Pathetic.
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