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It's fundamentals....it's not scheme
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:47 pm
Guys, it is a lack of the basic elements.
That makes it more damning than any offensive scheming. It's the things coaches like Saban harp on and thrive with.
That makes it more damning than any offensive scheming. It's the things coaches like Saban harp on and thrive with.
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:48 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
Guys, it is a lack of the basic elements.
Such as...
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:49 pm to CharlesLSU
Literally any problem goes back to coaching at this point.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:49 pm to CharlesLSU
I agree one hundred percent.
Obviously no standards apply. You play how you are allowed to practice! We are sloppy and poorly coached
Obviously no standards apply. You play how you are allowed to practice! We are sloppy and poorly coached
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:49 pm to lsu2006
Simple oline form and function: foot placement, leverage, simple playbook study
Catching: if it hits both hands there's no excuse
Tackling: just watching Bama amazes me
Passing: well, we all know the QB development issues but this is tied to hamstringing the support roles around the QB
Discipline: maintaining decorum of a winner and the role of leader. The players are not his kids nor his buddies, they are his players first and foremost.
Catching: if it hits both hands there's no excuse
Tackling: just watching Bama amazes me
Passing: well, we all know the QB development issues but this is tied to hamstringing the support roles around the QB
Discipline: maintaining decorum of a winner and the role of leader. The players are not his kids nor his buddies, they are his players first and foremost.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:49 pm to slackster
quote:
Literally any problem goes back to coaching at this point.
Bingo!
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:52 pm to lsu2006
quote:
Such as...
Are you serious?
Blocking
Tackling
Passing
Catching
Punting
Kicking off
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:57 pm to CharlesLSU
We've got lineman running the wrong way to block. we have linemen blocking air and we have linemen whiffing time after time, as well as getting beaten by defenders just plain running around them. You won't compete much in the SEC if your left tackle can't block players who just run around him.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:58 pm to CharlesLSU
Its both. Dont kid yourself.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:58 pm to CharlesLSU
Lack of fundamentals and poor scheme are not mutually exclusive and are both signs of poor coaching.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 3:59 pm to CharlesLSU
Don't give a rats arse what it is. I COULD HAVE coached that team and scored more that 7 points with the offense.
If you don;t think so you are fooling yourself. Its coaching plain and simple:
1. Not utilizing your QB effectively.
a. No running plays.
b. No short quick pass plays.
2. Poor scheme
a. Need more 3 WR sets.
b. Need to involve TE in passing game.
c. See *a* in item 1 QB has to run some.
3. Poor OL play.
4. Poor ST play.
At the end of the day its coaching.
If you don;t think so you are fooling yourself. Its coaching plain and simple:
1. Not utilizing your QB effectively.
a. No running plays.
b. No short quick pass plays.
2. Poor scheme
a. Need more 3 WR sets.
b. Need to involve TE in passing game.
c. See *a* in item 1 QB has to run some.
3. Poor OL play.
4. Poor ST play.
At the end of the day its coaching.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:00 pm to CharlesLSU
We have to be more precise with our current offense. Execution has to be almost perfect, can't afford penalties etc. If we had a better scheme we wouldn't have to rely on being as fundamentally sound as we need to be now
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:03 pm to Penrod
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Are you serious?
He just said "some elements". Sorry it wasn't very clear. I agree we have fundamental problems, but scheme is a huge problem too.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:06 pm to CharlesLSU
... it's the economy, er scheme stupid... J. Carville.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:12 pm to CharlesLSU
Gonna have to disagree.
Look at Florida State. They screwed up on fundamentals all night. Numerous false starts that killed drives, several dropped passes by the WRs on key moments, including would be TDs. Missed assignments.
Yet they still beat a strong SEC team and put up a ton of points because of in game coaching, adjustments, and a dynamic offensive scheme.
If that had been lsu against Ole Miss, nothing would change from the opening toss dive and we would have been blown out.
Look at Florida State. They screwed up on fundamentals all night. Numerous false starts that killed drives, several dropped passes by the WRs on key moments, including would be TDs. Missed assignments.
Yet they still beat a strong SEC team and put up a ton of points because of in game coaching, adjustments, and a dynamic offensive scheme.
If that had been lsu against Ole Miss, nothing would change from the opening toss dive and we would have been blown out.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:23 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
Guys, it is a lack of the basic elements.
Well...
It all points to coaching right?
right
So change the coaching
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:49 pm to CharlesLSU
If you watched the LSU game and pretty much any other game played last weekend and still think it is not scheme there is no reason to argue this thread.
If my pass blocking wasnt holding up I'd stop running I form play action keeping my qb from look for receivers with his back to the play over. Just one of the many examples
If my pass blocking wasnt holding up I'd stop running I form play action keeping my qb from look for receivers with his back to the play over. Just one of the many examples
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:51 pm to ApexTiger
The OP came straight from a Miles press conference: "Our plays arent the problem, if the players would just execute we'd win."
Posted on 9/8/16 at 4:52 pm to CharlesLSU
Or both....
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