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It wasn't just lack of recruiting on defense
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:04 am
There was some talent that isn't currently on the team. I'm sure most teams lose a few players as well but can't help but wonder how LSU would have been on defense with R.Robinson and Valentine and LMAO.....I'm missing at least one also that I can't recall. But....that's also on coaches to try and evaluate character as well as talent.
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:05 am to Tigerinthehollow
Our Offensive recruiting is good, but we don't use the players properly.
The defense is the one thing we are known to do right, and we are depleted talent wise.
Recipe for disaster.
The defense is the one thing we are known to do right, and we are depleted talent wise.
Recipe for disaster.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:14 am to DrSteveBrule
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The defense is the one thing we are known to do right, and we are depleted talent wise.
I'm actually not nearly as worried about DL because of Orgeron, especially with what we're expecting to land this year. I don't think we're stacked at DB, but adequate.
But, LB depth is atrocious. Assuming Beckwith goes in the draft, our starters next year will be Duke Riley and Donnie Alexander - and practically nobody behind them except people who haven't played or kids playing HS ball right now.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:20 am to Ace Midnight
We are fkd at lb next year. That's why I haven't understood all this 2016 is the year.. .no mlb spells trouble and if you are counting on a tf to play mlb in the sec.....lol
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:21 am to Ace Midnight
How do people feel about the year Beckwith has had? It's hard to tell if he's having a down year, or if he's just overwhelmed because he's playing a new scheme and the defense around him is weak.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:22 am to coolpapaboze
The defense around him has minimum 6 future NFL players...
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:28 am to Tigerinthehollow
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We are fkd at lb next year. That's why I haven't understood all this 2016 is the year.. .no mlb spells trouble and if you are counting on a tf to play mlb in the sec.....lol
That's why the biggest recruiting job this staff has is Beckwith.
I see a kid like Divinity that can come in and play outside, early. And maybe Fowler is advanced enough to get some quality reps at Mike, but only late in games or against OOC. If he can play significantly as a freshman - I'll feel a little better, but as you suggest, this is by no means a reasonable expectation.
I don't know how we finish, but certainly we're going to take 2 or 3 more LBers.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:31 am to coolpapaboze
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How do people feel about the year Beckwith has had?
I think he grades out high for the NFL. He's not the fastest guy, but he's fast enough at Mike. Linebackers just aren't a premium in the league, so they don't typically draw as many high draft picks (like RB and S). If he doesn't get a first day sheet, he may get the insurance policy and come back.
:fingerscrossed:
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:54 am to Tigerinthehollow
Beckwith is listed as the 2nd rated ILB and projected as a 2nd round pick. Deion Jones is rated as a 4th round OLB.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:56 am to Tigerinthehollow
If only Clifton Garrett would have stayed the hell out of Tigerland...
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:57 am to Tigerinthehollow
Make no mistake, part of our defensive problems of kate is directly attributed to a pathetic offense.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:06 am to Tigerinthehollow
I posted about this since 2011 the d line and lb that were here and gone or haven't contributed. Astounding.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:10 am to Tigerinthehollow
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There was some talent that isn't currently on the team. I'm sure most teams lose a few players as well but can't help but wonder how LSU would have been on defense with R.Robinson and Valentine and LMAO.....I'm missing at least one also that I can't recall. But....that's also on coaches to try and evaluate character as well as talent
that is a part of recruiting. Evaluating the character of the kid and making the offer based on talent and character. If you evaluate based on talent, then you have issues. If you evaluate both, maybe you don't have to kick as many off.
no secret valentine and robinson had grade issues during their recruitment. we took a risk and that risk failed.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:13 am to GeeOH
Plug an play guys for defense recruit juco guys to patch things up till fr get experience. Rashard R. T. Valentine and C.Garrett big blows hard to replace right off.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:13 am to GeauxToBed
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If only Clifton Garrett would have stayed the hell out of Tigerland
I really thought he was going to be an amazing linebacker. Like one we never forget. Instead he's playing D-Il l. Bad break.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:17 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Before long, T. Valentine will become the GOAT DL at LSU.
Without ever playing a down...
Without ever playing a down...
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:59 am to Tigerinthehollow
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We are fkd at lb next year. That's why I haven't understood all this 2016 is the year.. .no mlb spells trouble and if you are counting on a tf to play mlb in the sec.....lol
I see you are getting your Miles excuses ready early for next year.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:12 am to Tigerinthehollow
we got 4 linebackers in the last 3 classes. and 1 of them isn't on the team anymore.
Thats an issue.
There is a common thread between Bain, LMAO and Valentine: There all guys we took last minute because we needed bodies in a class. In all likely hood had we taken the time to scout them we would have seen the red flags other teams saw.
Thats an issue.
There is a common thread between Bain, LMAO and Valentine: There all guys we took last minute because we needed bodies in a class. In all likely hood had we taken the time to scout them we would have seen the red flags other teams saw.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:16 am to Nuts4LSU
I think miles has been very good at LSU...most success of any LSU coach ever. I also think its time for a change and I believe that will happen. I just feel sorry for the people like you that couldn't enjoy the success of the team over the last 10 years due to your dislike of Miles. LSU is a top 5 program over the last 10 years under Miles. Very few get that.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:18 am to nitwit
I have no idea whether he is any good or not. I know he had a big body that we need in there right now.
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