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re: It is time for the Jennings experiment to end

Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:26 pm to
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jtran1988


You are a dumbass, 8-26 for 78yds that is lighting it up!!! Yes there were 3 to 4 dropped balls so you bump Jennings numbers up to 12-26 does that make it much better. What about the poor passes that were caught, do you take those away because it was all the receiver and not the QB. Facts are Jennings has not played well so far this year. It is time to try new things!!
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:39 pm to
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There is no reason to think this will actually happen.


There is no reason to think Jennings starts into he graduates. Don't give me crap about JJ and Lee.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:41 pm to
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You act like it was Jenning's fault we lost.


Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:45 pm to
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. You act like it was Jenning's fault we lost




I spewed beer on the screen when i read this gem Jennings is terrible and it's les and cam's fault.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:46 pm to
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This game had nothing to do with our defense and how they played, they played great. This game should have never gotten down to overtime. Do you realize that we absolutely controlled the 2nd half of the game and couldn't score shite!!!!!


Exactly. That loss falls squarely on the offensive coaching staff, and offensive players. Quinn couldn't catch a cold, Jennings looked lost , refusal to spark the offense in the second half by putting in Harris. Even Vadal getting flagged.

One thing I hate most, is that we got away from the passes to the RBs. Magee and Fournette in the screen game was nowhere to be found. That had accounted for half of our receiving yards the past 3 games.

I knew we were going to frick it up in OT too, and I knew they game was lost at that point.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:50 pm to
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And that reason is????????????????????? Les has his guys with more experience that he thinks give the best chance to win. Jennings will be the starter until he is hurt, suspended, or out of eligibility.


JL had more experience than JJ so there goes that theory. Lee was a far better passer than JJ. Les likes QB's who can run an pass equally well which is why I believe Harris will eventually win the job, similar to JJ or JL. He is a better passer AND runner than AJ.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:51 pm to
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we got away from the passes to the RBs. Magee and Fournette in the screen game was nowhere to be found. That had accounted for half of our receiving yards the past 3 games.


This x 1000. Those are safe passes and Magee and LF are great receivers, I remember one dump to Magee in the first half.
Posted by Hiyoka
Tokyo
Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:51 pm to
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I have a hard time believing that CLM, Cam, and the others are so stubborn to refuse to see IF Harris is so much better than Jennings.


I don't know who is the answer but this is ignorant logic and a dumb argument considering this same coach played Welter over Beckwith for 1.5 years and JJ period for 3+ years.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:52 pm to
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our offense got the defense a lead to hold onto for 50 seconds, and they couldn't do it. that's also totally unacceptable


frick that. Two minutes, run the fricking clock out. Defenses are usually their weakest on game winning final drives.

50 seconds is a lifetime to go about 35 yards to kick a FG. Of course they got closer than the 30, but that still doesn't matter. This is like 2012 and 2013 all over again against Bama, Ole Miss, and Clemson, where we couldn't get a damn first down to finish off the game. They conceded ing for the FG, by trying to position it instead of trying to get the first.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5529 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:53 pm to
Well I dont know if Harris is the answer but Jennings we know isnt and sitting by watching the dumpster fire isnt helping!!
Posted by tford50
Metairie, LA
Member since Jul 2006
412 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:14 pm to
Worse thing that could have happened was for Jennings to lead us to that comeback last year against Arkansas. We might have won one game but how many has it already cost and how many will it cost in the future. That game endured Jennings to Les, probably forever.We all know that Les gets his favorites, Jordan Jefferson the prime example. I feel like most people out there seem to feel, that Harris is the future, he definitely has the most tools. Give him the experience now since whether we win or lose for the rest of the season really doesn't make any difference as far as the big picture. Everybody wanted Harris. Auburn so badly that they were even calling him "Lil Cam." What I'm really concerned with is that Harris will get frustrated, feeling he'll never get a real chance, and leave. You might as well forget about ever getting a top QB recruit again, at least as long as Les is around. I'm sure people will read this and say "Oh, just another Miles hater." That couldn't be further from the truth. I've been a huge Miles supporter since he has been at LSU, even to the point of getting in a fight over defending him, and I still will be. I'm just kind of getting fed up with what I've been seeing as far as offensive production and feel that something needs to be done. At least get rid of the favoritism and let's have some true competition. 8 for 26? That ain't going to win most high school games. Time to give Harris a "real shot", not being totally ridiculous like giving him his shot on the the road at Auburn in 1st SEC start.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24275 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:16 pm to
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And spare me any comments about the kick out of bounds. That was 10 yards, not the 50 other yards they gained.


Well, the kick did not help the D out. We gave them the 35-yard-line to start with 50 seconds left. The offense only put up 13 at home (after a fumble recovery by the D at the 6 and a personal foul call on the offense to back it up). That didn't help either. It is baffling that a team that couldn't even get a first down for basically the whole 2nd half just went down the field and had perfect execution to go 50 yards and get 3 points in 50 seconds, but we can't keep thinking we're going to beat the best of the best playing with a handicap in the passing game. We had pressure, but couldn't get to the QB. They didn't make a play in the end, but it shouldn't have come down to that when they shut them down for most of the game.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:18 pm to
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playing prevent defense


We never were in a prevent defense.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:22 pm to
Lololol at you ignorant pricks that think you know football. Coach them up on a forum why don't you? You rant like it's going to do anything. The season is coming to a close. He's going to stick to his guy until the end of this season. Harris will have his chance again in the offseason and spring training. You're all but box score stat gazers and 5 star knob slobbers. There were a lot more that contributed to the loss than just Jennings. You are way too emotionally involved in this.

If Harris was the so called stater he would have been by now or a long time ago, according to your "statistics." There is a reason they penciled Jennings.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Kyle Allen first start of his career @home vs ULM - 13/28 for 106yds. 1 TD, 1INT. Barely won too, 21-16.


My question is why does our coaching staff believe that Jennings will improve with additional play but apparently not Harris? Using the convenient Kyle Allen comparison, he ends up taking the starting spot from a guy that lit up South Carolina to start the season and was being compared to JFF after that start. Obviously that was premature, but the point is the kid showed signs of greatness.

Our starting QB has never shown such ability, that I'm aware of, and was finally pulled against New Mexico. Our true freshman gets his first start on the road at Auburn and looks very bad. Unlike Kyle Allen after the ULM game who gets another start and shows that he truly can play, our kid gets marched back to the bench to gather dust. Did the staff truly believe that he would be able to carry the team to victory? This was, after all, before the defense and running game were clicking on all cylinders.

No, I don't want to trade teams or coaches with A&M before anyone asks, but just don't understand the thought process of our coaching staff this issue.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:14 pm to
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Lololol at you ignorant pricks that think you know football. Coach them up on a forum why don't you? You rant like it's going to do anything. The season is coming to a close. He's going to stick to his guy until the end of this season. Harris will have his chance again in the offseason and spring tr...


Were we wrong about Welter needing to be benched in favor of Beckwith? Were we wrong in saying Fournette needs to get more carries?

Yes, fans can be wrong.. but some things are painfully obvious.. There are 3 things that are painfully obvious and it has always been MLB play.. Fournette needing more carries.. and the QB play. The coaching staff finally realized the first 2, and now they need to make the switch to the 3rd final thing.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:18 pm to
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our kid gets marched back to the bench to gather dust


This is LSU's biggest problem.. LSU plays soooo scared to make a turnover.. They need to roll with the better QB and build the offense around him. If he does turn it over.. have enough confidence in their ability to make up for it. Winston threw 2 INTs last game, but they still come back and win.. When Harris does finally get a series or 2.. he knows he has to be damn near perfect.. which he actually has played remarkable given the circumstances.. They need to give the man the rest of the season. Not 1 game, and not some split time garbage. Give him the keys going forward and see what you have.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:24 pm to
Completely agree with just about all of that.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:27 pm to
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My question is why does our coaching staff believe that Jennings will improve with additional play but apparently not Harris?


Maybe they think he won't improve dramatically but believe he is the best chance to win games. Harris may have the highest ceiling but that doesn't means he wins games for you this year. If he was the best choice he'd be playing. Right now he isn't. He needs to work harder and get better. If he does he'll start next year.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:10 pm to
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If he does he'll start next year.


That is where I disagree with you Miles has a tendency of sticking with what he knows, rather than who is the better player.
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