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re: Is "Mendoza" too much to ask?

Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:02 pm to
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I am simply asking if there is any point where you try somebody else.


Yes, there is obviously a point where you try somebody else.

In fact, if we knew today that JaCoby Jones was going to hit below .200 for the rest of the season, then it would be the right thing to do.

But he's a super talented veteran 3rd-year starter, and has been a stellar infielder during that whole time, and has even moved to CF when the coach asked him to do so.

This whole thing is tearing me up right now. It's become painful for me to watch. I know he can do better than this, but I also see that he is just doing things at the plate that simply aren't working.

JaCoby has been far and away my favorite player at LSU ever since he was a freshman in 2011. I like the whole style of his game. I like the way he plays. I like the way he carries himself. He just looks like a baseball player ... who happens to have a terrible swing right now.

I still believe in the kid though. I really do. I just know that I can't complain if he starts getting platooned. Whatever the coaches decide to do, I hope they find a way to get this kid ready for the playoffs, because I think he can still deliver in clutch time at the CWS.

It's been such a strange year. Rhymes, Ross, Jones, & Sciambra, have all sort of failed to live up to offensive expectations, and yet the team itself is wildly successful.

I can't get over how good Bregman & Ibarra are, (EDIT: plus the new outfielders), and then of course, Katz, probably the player I've most underestimated in the entire time I've been watching LSU baseball. Holy crap.

If this team ever gets all cylinders hitting at the same time, it might become one of the best in all of college baseball in recent decades.

I don't know what to say anymore. I'm almost speechless at this point.
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 5:07 pm
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7273 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

omegaman66

Glad to see you stopped the bleeding.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:10 pm to
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No need to put extra pressure on Jacoby by benching him...


There are times when it can actually take pressure off a player by letting him platoon for a while.

I remember once when I was batting 3rd on the team and was just doing horribly, and it was the most baseball pressure I've ever felt in my life when the coach just kept putting me out there.

It's a very tough situation to be in mentally. The coaches have got to find a way to get this kid ready to hit for the CWS though.

Even if you believe he just doesn't have it in him to ever be a great hitter, we can still get more out of him than this. He's at least got the potential to hit .270 against top ranked teams I would think.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:23 pm to
Crazy thought....put him at DH in a mid week game and see if that has any kind of influence on his mental state. And put foster at 2nd.

Worth a shot mid week.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:27 pm to
You guys are expressing it better than me. Of course I like the kid. I like anyone that passes on MLB to play college ball at LSU. There is talent there obviously and I hope it gets turned around. Sometimes you just need a change...maybe this is one of those times. I dunno. Maybe he starts tearing the cover off the ball...that would be fine with me!
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10509 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:28 pm to
Its tough with Jacoby because you know he can hit. He didn't do it last year thoug and has gotten worse. We have other guys who can play second but I don't see any of them hitting above .300. It may be worth it to hold out longer.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:39 pm to
Maybe so. I know we really don't know what is on the bench because of the lack of experience. I do worry though because this was the soft part of the SEC schedule. Its about to get real in a hurry. :)
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:42 pm to
You don't mean to be negative? We would be way better. Probably 3 or 4 wins better.
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:46 pm to
I'm not a batting coach for sure...but I sure would love to see Jacoby lower his hands a little. Kinda like Katz. He has a lot going on in his swing after the pitch...including having to lower his hands. It's tough to change mechanics..so a lot to ask..but he needs to simplify things.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:47 pm to
I don't understand why talking about baseball and the possibility of changing up one position means I am negative. I really don't understand why a person cannot get on a sports board and talk about legitimate sports without being attacked. I guess I am just a "troll" because I am on an LSU sports board talking LSU sports.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:50 pm to
Do you think the deadening of the bat has hurt him or had that already occurred prior to the freshman year?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:52 pm to
Had already occurred I believe.
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 5:57 pm to
If you're asking my opinion..I think he is a great athlete who got by as a freshman because he didn't see a ton of breaking balls. As the scouting reports came in..he has seen more and more of them...and he still can't hit them. He also takes too big a swing for his mechanics. Katz takes a big swing..but with his simplified mechanics..his swing is on plane right off the bat. Jones has to drop his hands and go through all sorts of gyrations before swinging.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:25 pm to
I do notice he seems to be kind of herky jerky up at the plate. I know this can't help this year but I would like to see him build up some more muscle in his arms. I wonder if that might not help stabilize his swing a bit.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89837 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:27 pm to
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Please people....did you ever play sports? When you slump, you grab some bench, refocus, get pissed off and kick arse the next time you get the opportunity to play! It works!



I don't think you ever played sports.

Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:30 pm to
I did and grabbed plenty of bench.
Posted by tigerfan1
Member since Jan 2007
1762 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:31 pm to
When you go 1 for 27 the bench is just about as warranted as it will ever be.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89837 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:36 pm to
This is typically how I look at it...

PM knows more about baseball than I do.
PM know more about this team than I do.
PM knows more about his players than I do.
PM is coaching this team, and I'm not.

Therefore, until he starts to monumentally fail at his job, I will have to respect the points listed above and roll with the decisions he makes.
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2250 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:39 pm to
You sound like a reasonable person and fan
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/31/13 at 6:39 pm to
Jacoby's hitting is fricking pathetic but I'm not sure we have anyone on the bench any better as a total package
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