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re: Is Les Miles Smarter than People Give Him Credit For?

Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:03 pm to
Well then, since Peveto is gone the logical choice is for him to get his promotion here, buuuuuut...

Which is exactly my point of how nobody in the SEC wants these bozos on their staffs, not even Miles...now how smart was it of Miles making these guys co-dc's?

Ah-haaaaaaaaa
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1653 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:57 pm to
I had warmed to Miles since his hire - Sending Jimbo Fisher packing and upgrading the offense in the process; bringing in Bo Pelini to run the D; kicking Perriloux off the team are three examples of good moves on Miles part, IMO.

What set me back (further from where I started) was how he handled the adversity this year. Deflecting the criticism of the teams performance from the coaches to the players translated into them laying down for opponents and openly challenging the coaches during the game.

That is why I am concerned that the issues that need to be fixed are more complex than simply replacing the D Coordinators. Time will tell and in spite of my doubts, will plan on making the roadtrip to Seattle for the Washington game.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

I had warmed to Miles since his hire - Sending Jimbo Fisher packing and upgrading the offense in the process; bringing in Bo Pelini to run the D; kicking Perriloux off the team are three examples of good moves on Miles part, IMO.

What set me back (further from where I started) was how he handled the adversity this year. Deflecting the criticism of the teams performance from the coaches to the players translated into them laying down for opponents and openly challenging the coaches during the game.


Thanks for a post that, I guess, I've been wanting to yell for weeks now, but couldn't find a way to say it calmly.
The second paragraph is right on the money!!!! But will add they challenged coaches during the week too. (see UF week)
Posted by ElysianArmsAlum
Maryland
Member since Dec 2006
964 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 9:48 pm to
I'll take substance over style every time
Posted by THATLSUBOY
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
2945 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 9:56 pm to
I think he is 2.
Posted by kjanchild
Member since Jan 2005
3970 posts
Posted on 12/19/08 at 10:37 pm to
Miles=Columbo
Posted by GT
BR
Member since Dec 2003
917 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 12:39 am to
I happen to know someone who was not accepted to Grad school at LSU so this person ended up at the
Meeeeeeeeeeeechigan Grad School.
Posted by growler
Alexandria, LA
Member since Apr 2004
429 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 8:07 am to
No
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 8:26 am to
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I can to name them because they are assistant coaches who are NOT being considered by big time teams. PERIOD.
Your point is both disengenuous and irrelevant.

Mallory has been hired by Indiana, Maryland and Oklahoma State. Peveto was hired by Arkansas. Those are all BCS conference programs. Thus, both of these coaches Miles hired were more than considered for hiring by BCS conference teams, they actually were hired by them.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 8:28 am to
quote:

No one said Miles was stupid.
Actually several people on this board have said that many, many times.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 8:32 am to
quote:

now how smart was it of Miles making these guys co-dc's?
No one here knows. Just as no one here knows how smart the Malzahn hire by Nutt was, or the Applewhite hire by Saban was, or the OC Tubs hired this year (already forgot his name). All of them may have been smart choices that simply didn't work out for unforeseeable/uncontrollable reasons. Again, not every decision that turns out badly is a dumb decision.

Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Mallory has been hired by Indiana, Maryland and Oklahoma State. Peveto was hired by Arkansas.


Uhhhh,

That was then, this is now! Your point is "disengenuous" (?) and irrelevant since they are no longer being considered by these programs or others of equal stature.

Man, I think you been smooching their crack. Need a mint?
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:01 am to
quote:



Uhhhh,

That was then, this is now! Your point is "disengenuous" (?) and irrelevant since they are no longer being considered by these programs or others of equal stature.

Man, I think you been smooching their crack. Need a mint?



Yeah, I guess they have this long track record of working in BCS programs and then just woke up one day and forgot how to be a good position coach.



quote:

DP40

got pwned and doesn't know how to bow out gracefully.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Miles=Columbo


LOL, as a closet Columbo fan I have often pondered that analogy kjanchild.

I have vacillated between whether Coach Miles act is a calculated ruse like Columbo or in fact what we see is what he is.

I'm still really not sure to tell you the truth, but I hope for our sake it's the former.
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
9907 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:37 am to
ironsides,

It looks like you need 2 mints- one for smooching the coaches and one for smooching King Joey's crack.

That is all....
Posted by valpeaux
Member since Dec 2007
479 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:45 am to
quote:

reminds me of a scene in Bull Durham when Kevin Costner tells the manager that the players are just kids and he needs to scare them...




"You lollygag around the line of scrimmage! You lollygag around the tackles! You know what that makes you? ... Larry?"

"Lollygaggers"
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34466 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 11:14 am to
Lucky yes. Great guy -yes. Gutsy- yes. Smart...no.

That fake punt by them really surprised us...enough said.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 11:20 am to
Well, he went to Michigan, and I went to LSU. Considering that I'm the smartest person on this board, that would make Miles very intelligent.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

That fake punt by them really surprised us...enough said.


Well, by that line of thinking, our fake field goal against South Carolina last year made Steve Spurrier look positively retarded.

Using ghe outcome of a single play of a single game as a measure of a man's intellect is not remotely reasonable.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17696 posts
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Is Les Miles More Hard Headed than People Give Him Credit For?


fixed it...
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