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re: Is it just me or has the anti-Miles talk totally subsided?
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:19 pm to Drew Orleans
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:19 pm to Drew Orleans
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Just out of curiosity... can you prove me wrong?
Since you accused Les of being retarded, the proof should lie with you.
Prove to me that Les Miles is retarded. You said it. Back it up. Show me data that proves that Les Miles is mentally retarded. Give me your evidence. Show up or shut up. That's how men do it. Man up.
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:21 pm to Uncommon Cents
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That's how men do it
Lol.
My how times have changed.
Men used to take it outside. Now men provide links with factual evidence.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:23 pm to LJBurton
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Choctaw, I know you are more reasonable than this and are just trying to be provocative, here. Surely, you can't believe that the Miles critics, of which I am one, would try to pick apart an undefeated season.
Absolutely yes. There would be rantards bitching about why a certain play didn't work. There would be negatardoes having a cow about players on the bench being better than those on the field. There are a few people that are so invested in being critical that nothing would ever satisfy them. It would be like admitting that they are wrong and their fragile little egos couldn't handle it.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:26 pm to Uncommon Cents
Something tells me you have seen all the reasons posted on this site, with videos included. If you really need examples I think you should go get a check up to make sure your short term memory isn't failing you.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:28 pm to teeMike
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Since the Miles announcement, I haven't seen any anti-Miles posts. Cautious optimism? Acceptance? New OC? Whatever it is, I'm sensing a whole new optimism on the Rant. The pendulum has swung to the Posi-Tigers!
2 things:
- He's going to be here for next decade unless he loses 12 games in any 2 years, so there'll be plenty of time to criticize if it's warranted.
- We've only played one game in over a month and it was a great performance.
Given those, you'd have to be itching for a fight to air negative thoughts about what has happened in the past. Best we can do now is hope that all of the talent Miles has stockpiled translates into championships.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:29 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Absolutely yes. There would be rantards bitching about why a certain play didn't work. There would be negatardoes having a cow about players on the bench being better than those on the field. There are a few people that are so invested in being critical that nothing would ever satisfy them. It would be like admitting that they are wrong and their fragile little egos couldn't handle it.
And you are on the extreme other end, shouting down and throwing insults at anyone you disagree with, so you hardly have the moral high ground on this one, brother.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:29 pm to Drew Orleans
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Something tells me you have seen all the reasons posted on this site, with videos included. If you really need examples I think you should go get a check up to make sure your short term memory isn't failing you.
You haven't proved anything. Prove that Les Miles in mentally retarded. Dodging the question isn't answering it. Prove it.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:32 pm to The312
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There is no sense of "entitlement." That's just a bizarre argument. When your son comes to you with a "C" in math, and you tell him you are disappointed and that he should study harder to make an "A," do you do that because you feel that you are "entitled" to a son who earns "A's," or do you do it because you recognize that your son has the talent to make an "A" and you want him to be excellent, the best person he can be?
When I express disappointment that LSU has only won a single SEC champiopnship under Miles, it isn't because I believe I am "entitled" to anything. Rather, it is because I know that LSU has the recruiting base, facilities, and other attributes necessary to be consistently excellent. We can win the SEC more often than once every six years. I want LSU to be the best program it can be.
This isn't hard to grasp unless you have a particular agenda.
Now, maybe you are one of those unfortunate souls who truly does believe that LSU can't do any better than one SEC title every six years, maybe you fall in the school of thought that regards LSU as mired in middle tier of the SEC for all eternity. I don't.
Finally, your assertion that NOBODY can "dominate" the SEC is belied by recent history. Bama under Saban had back to back undefeated regular seasons in the SEC. More generally, Saban has won three SECCG's in his last eight seasons in the SEC. Florida under Meyer won two SECCG's/NC's in a span of three years. Even Auburn has won two SEC titles since 2004. This clearly demonstrates that is is possible to win multiple SEC titles in a short span of time. That is all I am asking Miles to do.
Bam.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:32 pm to Uncommon Cents
I don't feel like taking the time to break down everything and find videos but to name just a couple:
-Ole Miss 09' (All Les)
-Tennessee 10' (Crowton was at fault as well but Les allowed it to happen)
I'm not in the mood for a pissing match but you know I'm right.
-Ole Miss 09' (All Les)
-Tennessee 10' (Crowton was at fault as well but Les allowed it to happen)
I'm not in the mood for a pissing match but you know I'm right.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:35 pm to LJBurton
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And you are on the extreme other end, shouting down and throwing insults at anyone you disagree with, so you hardly have the moral high ground on this one, brother
Calling Les Miles retarded, an idiot, a fool or a buffoon is the high moral ground? How is that the people that call Miles names have the high moral ground but when I turn it around on them it is extreme, brutha?
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:38 pm to Uncommon Cents
With Les we will always have 2 or more losses
Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:39 pm to Tyger1919
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With Les we will always have 2 or more losses
Fo sho? You bleb dat? Tanks.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:07 pm to teeMike
Its all gonna play out. We go back to Atlanta next year and I will be happy. If Les doesn't go back to Atlanta in the next couple of years its all gonna be taken care of. There should be no more excuses. Positigers can't blame the whole thing on Crowton anymore. These 2 years tell Les future. If he makes a good hire on the OC we will be fine.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:07 pm to uway
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There is no sense of "entitlement." That's just a bizarre argument. When your son comes to you with a "C" in math, and you tell him you are disappointed and that he should study harder to make an "A," do you do that because you feel that you are "entitled" to a son who earns "A's," or do you do it because you recognize that your son has the talent to make an "A" and you want him to be excellent, the best person he can be?
It's a lazy and nonsensical analogy. LSU football is not my son and there is no "math class".
Saban (your gold standard) was 48-16. Les is 62-17. Saban BLEW games with astonishing regularity. Remember iowa ? The 2002 arkansas game ? The blowout to Georgia ? Of course you dont....that's all forgotten because we had the unbelievable good fortune to win the SEC in 2001 with THREE losses in SEC play.Hell we STARTED that year 0-2 in conference play !
And make no mistake, that IS what you are talking about when you say 'championships". and yet you HACKISHLY refuse to acknowledge the difference in the SEC west in 2002 as compared to the SEC circa 2005-2010.
The SEC is currently at an all-time high. The competition is ridiculous. We will NOT win on YOUR freakin schedule or to satisfy your delicate sense of entitlement. For instance, your beloved saban may not win the SEC title next year (I'm betting on the Tigers) and that would give him ONE SEC title in FIVE years. You think he's a freaking "C student" ?
The truth is, you don't like Les Miles, his 11-2, 11-2, 12-2, 8-5, 9-4,11-2 records, one SEC championship, one BCS championship and 5 bowl wins over Miami, ohio State, Texas a&m, Georgia Tech and Notre Dame leave you wanting, and you want us to believe you don't have a sense of entitlement. Lol.
LSU will win another SEC crown soon and guys like you will be here to make every single second of it as miserable as you can, just like you ALWAYS do. Someday you'll tell your grandkids about the great Patrick Peterson and how much you didn't enjoy watching him play at LSU.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:08 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Uncommon Cents
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:09 pm to teeMike
Its all gonna play out. We go back to Atlanta next year and I will be happy. If Les doesn't go back to Atlanta in the next couple of years its all gonna be taken care of. There should be no more excuses. Positigers can't blame the whole thing on Crowton anymore. These 2 years tell Les future. If he makes a good hire on the OC we will be fine.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:10 pm to Drew Orleans
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I'm not in the mood for a pissing match but you know I'm right.
Translation:
I just got my azz handed to me and I'm going away.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:39 pm to Uncommon Cents
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With Les we will always have 2 or more losses
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Fo sho? You bleb dat? Tanks.
hes never lost less than 2 as a HC
Posted on 1/14/11 at 5:49 pm to teeMike
My biggest beef was with Crowton. I don't mind Miles as much, just think we need to finally make clock management a thing of the past, and I hope this new OC can fix that.
Also, maximizing our player's strengths are a must. Like letting our receivers go vertical more often. They're all big and fast. At least a quarter of our passes should go more than 15 yards downfield.
Also, maximizing our player's strengths are a must. Like letting our receivers go vertical more often. They're all big and fast. At least a quarter of our passes should go more than 15 yards downfield.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 6:56 pm to LJBurton
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Choctaw, I know you are more reasonable than this and are just trying to be provocative, here. Surely, you can't believe that the Miles critics, of which I am one, would try to pick apart an undefeated season.
Sadly, the Rant has become so polarized on this issue, it's starting to resemble the old CNN show "Crossfire", where people argued for the sake of arguing and representatives from either side refused to concede such basic tenets as the sky is blue or water is wet.
I know you did not address this to me, but I have to point out that in this very thread the thinking that he points to is evident. If 11-2 is not good enough because "it could have been 8-5", then 14-0 could surely be 9-5, and why would that not be the same? Results or "woulda/coulda/shoulda's", pick one.
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