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re: Is everyone on board that LSU will be better coached this year than past years?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:10 pm to BayouBengals18
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:10 pm to BayouBengals18
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Come on now, it doesn't take an extensive background in coaching to realize that changing coordinators every couple years on a team that the HC doesn't have his own identity, and supposedly lets his coordinators run their shows, is not a recipe for success.
I dont know....right now in the middle of July....how this will work for O or LSU. No one does. I'll admit it may be unorthodox.....but we will soon see.
Do you believe Aranda or Canada needs help? I dont think so....so if you're saying O should interject because its his duty...I'm not sure how to respond.
Nothing about what has happened at LSU in the last year is normal or ordinary.
I know this. O is the HEAD coach, so if he wants to override, interject, meddle....he can certainly do that.
If its me...and Canada and DA are rocking it in a particular game....I'm just enjoying the ride and keeping my mouth shut.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:12 pm to Fat Bastard
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les' demise was all saban's fault
Please note he following is not "Miles pumping" or in any way suggests that it wasn't time for Miles to go, but a lot of his demise is Saban's fault. If Saban never returns to college Miles has at least 1 and maybe 2 or more titles. He also doesn't lose some key in state recruits
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:15 pm to Fat Bastard
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yeah man saban sure proved his titles did not mean shite since he sucked at bama also right?
What Saban did or does at Alabama has zero to do with LSU coaching history. And if you cant accept the fact that the SEC of 2005 to 2016 was a much superior football conference than the SEC of 2000 to 2004, then your college football creditability has jumped to zero.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:47 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Do you believe Aranda or Canada needs help? I dont think so....so if you're saying O should interject because its his duty...I'm not sure how to respond. Nothing about what has happened at LSU in the last year is normal or ordinary.
I don't think Canada and Aranda need help, although a large portion of the position coaches duties are to help the coordinators implement their scheme. My main point is teaching a new offense or defense to all of the players and position coaches every couple years is not a good thing if you're trying to take the next step. I'm sorry if you can't realize that. Sometimes the new coordinator might not get along with a position coach, new coordinator might not get along with a few players, position coach might not be a good teacher of new scheme, players might not fit new scheme. Changing coordinators every couple years opens you up to a load of possible problems.
Of course, this is all assuming that Canada and Aranda move on in the near future. But top coordinators get HC jobs.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:56 pm to BayouBengals18
Neither or going anywhere
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:00 pm to TigerBait2008
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Neither or going anywhere
For this season? Of course not. After this season? Good luck.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:01 pm to BayouBengals18
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:01 pm to dgnx6
[quote]Les was fired because the results didn't equal the talent.[/quote]
This is total crap. Les was fired because he had some of the ugliest offense in D1 football. He was fired because he couldn't develop a qb. He was fired because he kept his friend around as oc.
He had an uncanny ability to make games much closer than they needed to be. You complain about O , how many WTF moments did Miles have ? Then saying things like "if I had one more second I would still be the head coach at LSU". (in reference to the Auburn game) Yet you bash O. LOL. SMH.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:02 pm to kajunman
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This is total crap. Les was fired because he had some of the ugliest offense in D1 football. He was fired because he couldn't develop a qb. He was fired because he kept his friend around as oc
So if Les went 10-2 every year he still would've been fired?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:07 pm to semjase
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There haven't been any coaching improvements in the Offensive Line
Yet LSU graded out as the best o line in the SEC.
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(Former QB that has never played the position)
Les Miles coached te's in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys even though he never played te. Hmmmm. He must have sucked because he never played the position.
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Grimes must be an O BBQ buddy. It is what it is. LSU can do much better there.
How about recruit real tackles instead of guards and moving them to tackle ?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:10 pm to LSUTigerSport
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The FR class will have to step up to provide depth. I see very little depth sans the freshmans.
That would be because recruiting hasn't been up to standard. Inflating your final ranking because you signed 2, 5 star db's doesn't amount to squat when you forget about lb's and o linemen.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:16 pm to StatMaster
I'm optimistic about the near future. More concerned about the long term strategy of relying on hiring elite coordinators.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:41 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
The argument, express or implied, that the quality of our HC doesn't matter, is at best untested. Where has this worked?
Is there no need for a HC ?
Some say Da Coach O 's job is to recruit, motivate and stay out of the way of coordinators... for three mil or so per yr.
That makes no sense to me, but I much prefer Aranda's judgement on defense and Canada's offense to Orgeron.
Is there no need for a HC ?
Some say Da Coach O 's job is to recruit, motivate and stay out of the way of coordinators... for three mil or so per yr.
That makes no sense to me, but I much prefer Aranda's judgement on defense and Canada's offense to Orgeron.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:55 pm to BayouBengals18
He didn't go 10-2 every year. He should have been fired sooner rather than later. Things got progressively worse with Les. Had nothing to do with results didn't equal talent. What did you expect his record to be with the garbage he was recruiting at qb ?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:09 pm to BayouBengals18
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I'm not the dumbass who doesn't understand that basically every good HC is heavily involved on one side of the ball or the other. In fact, name me one NFL or college HC that has won a championship the last 20 years that wasn't heavily involved with one side of the ball.
Mike Tomlin, what do I win?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:21 pm to StatMaster
Yes! Okay coaches and players.....geaux do what you deaux so well!!
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:29 pm to Jcorye1
Dabo as well. After all , he was just a wr coach.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:53 pm to Tigris Christi
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That said, I don't want him at Ole Miss, he can recruit and could do some damage to LSU in our on back yard.
I don't care who the coach is at Ole Miss. With what is fixing to come down on that program, they will have a hard time getting good players. If Miles is hired, he'll continue to try to run between the tackles with much less quality players than he had at LSU.
Miles would be a great hire for Ole Miss for 3 reasons:
He'll run a clean program.
Fan interest will be up.
Won't take a lot of money, because LSU is still on the hook for $3.43 million.
My prediction is Les ain't going nowhere. He can sit at the house and draw a check for the next 5 years. Why take on the headache of a doomed program?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:08 pm to nitwit
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The argument, express or implied, that the quality of our HC doesn't matter, is at best untested. Where has this worked?
Long term, I don't know any time it's worked.
The reason I believe it hasn't worked isn't because coordinators can't cover the deficiencies of a HC that doesn't offer much in terms of Xs and Os. It's because all coaches eventually meddle, because they're the ones that take the fall when things go wrong. So at some point, they all feel the pressure to have some say in the on-field results.
Actually the best coaches know when to let their coaches coach and when to step in and make difficult strategic decisions, because in those high leverage moments they're supposed to be the authority. I don't think either extreme approach, either no intervention at all or micromanaging, is optimal.
When O eventually meddles is when we're really going to see how poor of a choice he was as HC. I don't think it's a matter of if, but when.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:28 pm to dgnx6
dgnx6. I think you will regret that statement
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