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re: Is everyone on board that LSU will be better coached this year than past years?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:02 am to dgnx6
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:02 am to dgnx6
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Or are we going to make excuses and blame Les and Bradley dale peveto?
The fact that you're sucking off BDP in any way, shape, or form, speaks volumes. The guy was hoorible at NSU and got exactly what he deserved courtesy of CEO.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:05 am to AlaTiger
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Coaching needs to be better. Recruiting is not what it was and fell off a bit the last 2-3 years, in my opinion. LSU still has a very talented roster, but also has lots of holes. We're used to being the most talented team on the field except for when we play Alabama. That might not be the case.
2005-2015- We have the most talent in the country except for MAYBE Tuscaloosa!! No excuse for losing 3 or 4 games a year!! Any idiot could win 10 games a year in Baton Rouge!!!!
2017-going forward- Schedule is tough. Lost a lot of talent. Can't expect miracles. 8-4 would be pretty good all things considered. Going to take time to get things back on track.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:19 am to danfraz
Canada and Aranda are in charge of the offense and defense. Orgeron does not have his hand in the hands on coaching of the offense and defense. Why is that difficult for people to comprehend? As long as the coordinators do their job, shouldn't the team be better?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:23 am to StatMaster
And I agree with those who worry about Orgeron's success in the long term bc his short term success will lead to loss of his coordinators and this constant turnover will be problematic. However, in the short term, he should be successful with these two coordinators and good recruiting.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:24 am to StatMaster
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Orgeron does not have his hand in the hands on coaching of the offense and defense.
Well I hope he instills mental toughness and we play disciplined ball under him. Not sure what else a head coach who only recruits does or can do. The penalties and miscommunications under Miles were rampant and hopefully it's something Orgeron noted and will remedy
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:52 am to Tiger Voodoo
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2017-going forward- Schedule is tough. Lost a lot of talent. Can't expect miracles. 8-4 would be pretty good
It's some funny shite to watch many of those who claimed averaging ten wins a season at LSU was underachieving to now suggest eight to nine wins is all that can be expected!
It's as if this is the first time LSU lost talent to the NFL or the first time we have had a hard schedule.
I think this is going to be O's forth year at LSU. Our recruiting has been very good for years. We supposedly have very good OC and DC. We have a very talented running game and a experienced senior QB.
I see no reason to expect less than 10-11 wins or the new hire by Alleva will have failed his first season.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:55 am to RedTigerRulz
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The fact that you're sucking off BDP in any way, shape, or form, speaks volumes. The guy was hoorible at NSU and got exactly what he deserved courtesy of CEO.
Ed Orgeron was horrible at ole Miss.
So what does that say about us?
Ed O 10-25
Peveto 14-30
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:59 am to StatMaster
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Canada and Aranda are in charge of the offense and defense. Orgeron does not have his hand in the hands on coaching of the offense and defense. Why is that difficult for people to comprehend? As long as the coordinators do their job, shouldn't the team be better?
Your head coach should be involved in the game plan. If shite is going wrong in game, your head coach needs to step in and take charge of the situation.
For y'all to sit here and be okay with a head coach not being involved is actually worrisome. Congrats, the expectations at LSU have now been lowered because a coon arse was hired.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:59 am to StatMaster
I was told for many years that Coach Les Miles is the best head football coach that LSU has ever had. So, I don't know about the 2017 Tigers being better coached than we have seen for years.
Seems like a "hive mentality" and "groupthink" pervades on matters such as these and those who don't join the hive immediately are outsiders.
IMHO, Miles's teams always seemed to lack some focus and football discipline. I always attributed that to the fact that they are amateurs and Coach Miles wanted to treat them that way and let them have some fun. Also, I understand that the college game has restrictions on practice time, so, it's unreasonable to expect a college team to be as focused and disciplined as the best professional teams in the NFL.
I say now that Coach Miles is a great head football coach and that any other SEC team currently in need of great coaching and great morals should hire Coach Miles now.
Seems like a "hive mentality" and "groupthink" pervades on matters such as these and those who don't join the hive immediately are outsiders.
IMHO, Miles's teams always seemed to lack some focus and football discipline. I always attributed that to the fact that they are amateurs and Coach Miles wanted to treat them that way and let them have some fun. Also, I understand that the college game has restrictions on practice time, so, it's unreasonable to expect a college team to be as focused and disciplined as the best professional teams in the NFL.
I say now that Coach Miles is a great head football coach and that any other SEC team currently in need of great coaching and great morals should hire Coach Miles now.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:01 am to AlaTiger
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Recruiting is not what it was and fell off a bit the last 2-3 years
There it is, didn't even make it a full page.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:08 am to BayouBengals18
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There it is, didn't even make it a full page.
Les was fired because the results didn't equal the talent. Now all of a sudden LSU doesn't have talent. So 8-4 is a good season. What a fricking joke.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:32 am to Tiger79
There haven't been any coaching improvements in the Offensive Line and at Wide Receiver.
Joseph is just a carbon copy of Craig. (Former QB that has never played the position) Was mainly hired for recruiting and not his ability to develop WR's. Here we go again.
Grimes must be an O BBQ buddy. It is what it is. LSU can do much better there.
Joseph is just a carbon copy of Craig. (Former QB that has never played the position) Was mainly hired for recruiting and not his ability to develop WR's. Here we go again.
Grimes must be an O BBQ buddy. It is what it is. LSU can do much better there.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:41 am to semjase
The answer is "we don't know if we will be better coached".
This whole program is now The Orgeron's. Presumably he will have his own style and not be reacting to the exigencies of becoming an interim coach like last year. And many here insist Da Caoch O is a different coach than the one who coached Ole Miss.
It will take a number of games to get a handle on what type of coaching we have and what new, distinctive personality is adopted by the program under The Orgeron.
This whole program is now The Orgeron's. Presumably he will have his own style and not be reacting to the exigencies of becoming an interim coach like last year. And many here insist Da Caoch O is a different coach than the one who coached Ole Miss.
It will take a number of games to get a handle on what type of coaching we have and what new, distinctive personality is adopted by the program under The Orgeron.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:04 am to Number 31
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Les is the best HC in LSU history
so miles is a better COACH than Saban? better or you mean winningest coach due to his term here?
oh wait you are counting all that overall record huh? like that means shite. 1 sec west title in his last 9 years. I will bet orgeron can at least tie that and I did not want CEO and am still on the fence until i see what he can do. Let that sink in how preposterous your claim is son.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:07 am to Fat Bastard
U guy's are such snowflakes. Give the tiger coach a chance! 
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:11 am to StatMaster
The FR class will have to step up to provide depth. I see very little depth sans the freshmans.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:13 am to Fat Bastard
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1 sec west title in his last 9 years. I will bet orgeron can at least tie that
Actually it is 2 SEC titles and 1 NC, played for another in his last full 9 years.
If you want to change it to last 8 years, ok I'll take that bet. Of course, that is contingent on Saban staying at Alabama.
I've posted this before, but as long as Saban is at Alabama, I don't see us winning the SEC again. Period.
I've already posted that I will happily self ban for a year if we win the SEC this year.
We could also bet based on games won. If Ed O wins more games in his first 8 years, if he's even here that long, than Miles won in his last 8, I'll permaban myself. Happily.
That would mean that the program has maintained or exceeded the unprecedented success that we all should have been enjoying the past decade plus. So yes, I would happily stop posting if LSU and O keep winning at the rate we have been.
The fact that so many idiots on this board don't understand how good of a coach he was and how great his tenure was, even on the down side, is mind boggling to me.
O matching what Miles did is not only unlikely, history proves it is almost guaranteed not to happen.
I hope that I, and the history of SEC and LSU football coaches, am proven wrong.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:27 am to StatMaster
I believe all this " Miles is the best LSU Head Coach in History" can be put to rest due to the FACT that nobody and I mean NOBODY want Les Miles as a Head Coach.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:29 am to StatMaster
Definitely an upgrade in offensive coaching over Miles and his buddies. A little drop off in talent from past years but we are young and will improve as the year goes on.
Better QB play and play calling will make a huge difference in this team. I don't see a lot of ugly 14-13 one point losses like in the Miles era.
Better QB play and play calling will make a huge difference in this team. I don't see a lot of ugly 14-13 one point losses like in the Miles era.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:30 am to Tiger Voodoo
he can get responsibility for last year because he fricked it up so i give him 9. we are measuring west titles. 1 in last 8 or 9 years whayever you want. his greatest successes cam with saban's players his FIRST 3 YEARS. 2 sec west titles his first 3 years............after that? exactly as i laid out.
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