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Is being an intellectual scheme coach more important than an emotional leader
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:06 pm
In college football, what pays off best in the long run?
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:07 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
Whatever Saban is doing is damn sure working.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:08 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
Both/either can be successful. There are enough examples on either side of the argument.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:09 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
You have to be both really. Miles was ONLY an emotional leader, and where did that get us?
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:11 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
No matter who the coach is having the top 2 recruiting classes regularly is far more important than anything else, that is what Saban is doing.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:16 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
I think you need to quantify that more. It's also important to recruit well, have coordinators who are competant and who you trust to do their job, and allowing them to do so, and having a system in place that covers details and development. This is why I am not anti coach O at all. I think he learned what he did wrong previously, and is allowing his coordinators to do their job now. Let him recruit, put the system in place, and hire the best coordinators he can to do the job they are hired to do. Hiring a Herman means that you are hiring a great OC who is a head coach. That's not a knock on him at all, but if we hire a great OC with coach O, and he lets him do his job, are we really going to be upset with the product?
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:21 pm to Fratigerguy
How would you describe Saban when he was at LSU? He was a process guy but it seemed the team played for him. Maybe a nice dose of both works best.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:27 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
It's a necessary but not sufficient condition for excellence. In other words, you have to be a great tactician, but that alone isn't enough. Most of the truly elite coaches today demonstrate intellectual prowess on one side of the ball or the other, sometimes both. Saban on defense, Meyer on offense, etc. If you don't have a smart coach who understands scheme and technique, you can't consistently beat other marquee teams with equivalent talent.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:29 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
Having the best players is step one. From there, the argument can be made for both sides.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:34 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
quote:I hate pumping Saban sunshine because I can't stand him, but in reality:
How would you describe Saban when he was at LSU?
I think Saban has everything really. His players respond to him. They probably worship the ground he walks on. His players are probably scared to death to fail under him (ie JK Simmons from Whiplash). He gets the best players every year. He develops them well. He's a brilliant game planner. Coordinated and organized. Willing to adapt if needed. He probably has an extreme strength and conditioning program (*wink*, *wink*). He just gets shite done.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:37 pm to SEC Supreme
#1) recruit the best and toughest players that fit your scheme
#2) implement both offensive and defensive schemes that fit your teams abilities
#3) know how and when to turn on the emotions at critical points in the game and vs. the toughest competition...you can't be pushing the buttons constantly vs. inferior opponents...
#2) implement both offensive and defensive schemes that fit your teams abilities
#3) know how and when to turn on the emotions at critical points in the game and vs. the toughest competition...you can't be pushing the buttons constantly vs. inferior opponents...
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:38 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
Long run? Discipline, establishing a good culture. That's what breeds consistency.
Sure, being emotional might spurt a strong run during a season, but we want dynasty here.
Sure, being emotional might spurt a strong run during a season, but we want dynasty here.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:47 pm to abellsujr
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Miles was ONLY an emotional leader, and where did that get us?
Championships?
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:48 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
An emotional coach with enough intellect to understand schemes so that you hire the most intellectual scheme assistant coaches that will maximize the talent that the entire coaching staff brings in through the recruiting process. And the balls to tell said assistant coaches to hit the bricks whenever they fail/become outdated.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:51 pm to beantown
And all the above will start falling into place if we keep this in-coming class together...out OL problems will be over if the 5 committed OLmen stay with us...and if the staff stays put, I believe that the DL will be filled out nicely...QBs=check...DBs=check...the only position I'm concerned about is LBs...but I believe that Aranda can get it done...jmho
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:51 pm to ElysianArmsAlum
Bill Belichick agrees with this.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:53 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
Whatever Saban is doing is damn sure working.
This.
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