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re: Images/clips of Dupre's misses & a breakdown of his technique-the answer to why
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:09 pm to D500MAG
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:09 pm to D500MAG
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Malachi
It all makes sense now. No wonder Rick has been trying to fool everyone into thinking LSU had a good offense the last couple years.
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:17 pm to D500MAG
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no way calitiger from td, who is posting from his mom's basement, can have a clue about real football.
Am I doing this right?
5.6 million upvoted for you Mr. Cali
Nice touch. Have an upvote.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:24 pm to skullopener
ADDED in game clips of his first drop from Etling. It shows him 2 yards in the clear at the 45 yard line. The ball is on the money past the defender and should have been caught in stride just as Desean Smith's had. He somehow decides to backpedal, shows the same wide open hand position upon the arrival of the ball, tries to clamp down on the ball instead of giving the triangle cupped pocket, clamps down on the ball unevenly twisting the ball out of his grasp. This isn't every single attempt, but on almost all of his misses that I've seen, this has been his problem. It's a bad habit he's somehow developed.
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This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:26 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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f*cking poster on the rant picks up on this and our own coaches, with one of the highest overall salaries in college football, can't.
that isn't fact.
surly they've picked this up and are working with him. bad habits are hard to break. he's doing it subconciously
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:29 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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A f*cking poster on the rant picks up on this and our own coaches, with one of the highest overall salaries in college football, can't.
And people wonder why we are not satisfied with wins of the past for such highly paid coaches.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:41 pm to LSU GrandDad
Just for the record, I am in no way saying Dupre isn't talented or that the coaches aren't working with him. I'm not bashing the guy. I'm saying that this bad technique is obvious to me, so therefore it has to be obvious to the coaches. The problem is that it is definitely a big issue in his third year and is being credited for 5 drops in two games. There were a couple more that should have been caught that weren't technically considered drops. The issue is why is he starting in games when for whatever reason, the issue hasn't been corrected? How much longer will we go with him if he continues to have the same issues? Has the talent behind him not developed enough to give them some playing time? As a former receiver that couldn't fathom keeping my hands apart on a reception where I had control of both hands to do so, it just baffles me as to why one at that position could do so that often.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I just noticed your avatar. My point is that Dupre shouldn't get almost exclusive playing time at WR until he can make his hands prior to the reception look somewhat similar to your avatar picture on every reception where he has both of his hands free.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:20 pm to CaliTigerForLife
Great OP!
He needs to play more basketball. It gets your hand-eye coordination up, teaches you how to fight for balls and as the OP addressed, it teaches you to keep your hands tight when catching a ball. You dont get a helmet in basketball.
He needs to play more basketball. It gets your hand-eye coordination up, teaches you how to fight for balls and as the OP addressed, it teaches you to keep your hands tight when catching a ball. You dont get a helmet in basketball.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:46 pm to CaliTigerForLife
I would of pulled him I don't care what his star rating was or his name is. Dural and Chark are much better pure WRs imo you can see it on the field. Dural has gotten much much much better. He needs to be the main target from now on with chark second and MD 3rd if that. It's obvious he has issues and is another reason Les should go. He plays these guys bc he likes them as people and they may work hard but you have to put the production out on the field. MD has always looked like the game is harder for him than other WRs. Etling obviously should have been starting from the get go. It amazes me that this guy is payed so much by LSU for so long. It's sad really and I know the SEC is laughing at LSU behind closed doors. I don't trust that man anymore. With anything having to do with LSU. Great guy I guess but I want great guy and coach, so should everyone. That's what we deserve here. Passionate fans that die hard for their tigers should have a coach doing the same on and off the field. GT
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:53 pm to LSU GrandDad
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fact. surly they've picked this up and are working with him. bad habits are hard to break. he's doing it subconciously
And you know this as fact bc you surely are saying it as fact just like him. Fact is they haven't pulled him and should have long ago that's fact. Still on Les Miles no excuses and I know you love to give them. Chark and Dupre are much better WR options and you have some freshman that are awfully tall with much better natural WR ability. Fact
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:58 pm to LSU GrandDad
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surly they've picked this up and are working with him. bad habits are hard to break. he's doing it subconciously
It's behavioral, nothing repetition can't fix. He should be catching 100's of passes a day.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The triangular pattrrn of the hands is just one part of the equation and not always possible when you have a defender grabbing one arm or band as the ball is close to delivery - as important if not more is the fundamentals of "looking the ball into your hands" which creates the opposite of the squeezing effect. This allows for not only focus on the ball versus the mistske of running too soon before the ball is caught and secured (looking the ball into your hands and tucking it drill) but also creates "soft hands" that actually allows the ball to come to you rather than you going to it which creates the squeezing or slapping effect - your hands when catching the ball are actually drawing the ball into you thus softening the velocity of the ball throes by a strong armed QB.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:01 am to TiggerB8t
Have an upvote. Yes, all of this comes into play when catching a ball as well. I mentioned in this thread that when you are able to catch it with two hands (no obvious interference, grabbing, etc), the most obvious part of viewing his issues just with what we are able to view is his obvious faults. Looking the ball all the way into the hands and not worrying about being hit are equally important. He was able to get both hands on all of his drops. He has lots of work to do.
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Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:17 am to CaliTigerForLife
Those football like objects behind him... are those footballs that he caught but with a bullet pass at the end could not catch the last one? What an idiot you are.
quote:Dude has dropped one legit pass in two games. The posi-Harris group would like you to think that he dropped 4 in the first game, but there are very few humans on Earth who could put a finger on one of those passes.
Images from practice showing why Malachi is having drops
Posted on 9/16/16 at 1:11 am to mmcgrath
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Dude has dropped one legit pass in two games. Theposi-Harris group would like you to think that he dropped 4 in the first game, but there are very few humans on Earth who could put a finger on one of those passes.
This really was not worth replying to but here goes...... I've viewed as much film as I have access to before posting any pics or clips. In most of his drops in practice and game film that I've seen, this has been his issue. I'm not going to post every picture I've come across to satisfy you. If you think for one second that Dupre has only one drop this year, you've fallen on your head. Is this the only legit drop that he has in your mind?
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Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:32 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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A f*cking poster on the rant picks up on this and our own coaches, with one of the highest overall salaries in college football, can't.
That's pretty sad.
Yep. I thought it was bad when Gary Danielson called Alabama's fake punt in 2013 before it happened and our coaches didn't see it coming. At least Danielson is supposed to know something, so it's only somewhat embarrassing that he is better than our coaches at recognizing what the other team is going to do. A poster on the Rant knowing more about Dupre's problems than his own coaches is just plain sad.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:37 am to CaliTigerForLife
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CaliTigerForLife
Op, thank you for bringing your experience and putting into context for us Madden all stars.
1st - I have been criticizing his drop that hit him square in the hands (the one you referenced). I've never played an organized snap in my life, but I do fancy myself on work smarter not harder. Shouldn't he have simply turned upfield and let the ball float in over his shoulder rather than do that spinny jumpy, try to make a highlight reel style of catch?
2nd - Do you think the coaches have addressed this issue (miles made coach speak reference to attaching brain to hands so that tells me they are aware) and maybe Dupre is (a) not coachable or (b) to arrogant? I think he should ride the bench until he gets his technique down honestly.
Thanks again.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
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How do you know they havent seen this?
Our staff cant go onto the field and currect the positioning of his hands.
No, but they can sit his arse on the bench if they've seen it, pointed it out to him and shown him the correct technique and he just doesn't listen to them.
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Youre delusional if you think anyone on this board knows the strengths and weaknesses of our players better than the coaches do.
I used to think that, but with this coaching staff, there is no level of incompetence or apathy that I would put past them.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:45 am to skullopener
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Images of Dupre's misses
so you are basing all that off one catching attempt?
Show me more in game images to prove your point.
Or you could try to watch some games more clearly. The OP is definitely correct. Dupre is a disaster this year. If your primary receiver cannot catch in this run-first offense, you have zero chance for success. All of that athletic talent is being wasted. They need to try someone else at this point. 3 catches out of 15 targets is pathetic.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
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How do you know they havent adressed it? Just because a coach shows a player the right way to catch the ball doesnt mean he will use it.
If they have addressed it and he is still doing it, putting games on the line, then he should be benched.
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