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re: Images/clips of Dupre's misses & a breakdown of his technique-the answer to why

Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:11 am to
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:11 am to
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Images/clips of Dupre's misses & a breakdown of his technique-the answer to why by GeauxLSUGeauxA f*cking poster on the rant picks up on this and our own coaches, with one of the highest overall salaries in college football, can't. That's pretty sad.


Man,Dupree has been with one of the best coaches in high school. He's attended all kind's of coaching clinics on the recruiting circuit. he's had two different wr's coaches in college.

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN TAUGHT TO HIM? Of course it has. Some players take to coaching and others don't.

It's the same exact reason Jimbo can teach drew weatherford or Xavier lee, five star qbs, but they don't perform like j. Winston with the same teaching.

Why is Dural able to catch with no problem and Dupree can't? same coach.
Posted by AndUhIUh
Member since Sep 2016
121 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:15 am to
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ADDED in game clips of his first drop from Etling. It shows him 2 yards in the clear at the 45 yard line. The ball is on the money past the defender and should have been caught in stride just as Desean Smith's had. He somehow decides to backpedal, shows the same wide open hand position upon the arrival of the ball, tries to clamp down on the ball instead of giving the triangle cupped pocket, clamps down on the ball unevenly twisting the ball out of his grasp. This isn't every single attempt, but on almost all of his misses that I've seen, this has been his problem. It's a bad habit he's somehow developed.

His left hand slipped on that one. Wow, you have to catch those.. It looks like he was going to grab it with his left hand and tuck it on the way down.

Gloves?? With the way they make gloves these days, how does he manage to slip like that??
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12561 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:21 am to
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How do you know they havent adressed it? Just because a coach shows a player the right way to catch the ball doesnt mean he will use it


If this is the case he needs to have his arse on the bench. Quit playing tummy sticks with Les and open your eyes dumb frick.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34402 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:21 am to
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A f*cking poster on the rant picks up on this and our own coaches, with one of the highest overall salaries in college football, can't.

That's pretty sad.



How do you know that coaches haven't picked up on it?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34402 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:23 am to
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Man,Dupree has been with one of the best coaches in high school. He's attended all kind's of coaching clinics on the recruiting circuit. he's had two different wr's coaches in college.

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN TAUGHT TO HIM? Of course it has. Some players take to coaching and others don't.

It's the same exact reason Jimbo can teach drew weatherford or Xavier lee, five star qbs, but they don't perform like j. Winston with the same teaching.

Why is Dural able to catch with no problem and Dupree can't? same coach.


Retards are often emotionally undeveloped and just cannot control the urge to throw tantrums. Give him a break, dos.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103181 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:38 am to
Nothing like running a ton of 2 man routes with one of the receiver incapable of consistently catching.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Man,Dupree has been with one of the best coaches in high school. He's attended all kind's of coaching clinics on the recruiting circuit. he's had two different wr's coaches in college.

DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN TAUGHT TO HIM? Of course it has. Some players take to coaching and others don't.

It's the same exact reason Jimbo can teach drew weatherford or Xavier lee, five star qbs, but they don't perform like j. Winston with the same teaching.

Why is Dural able to catch with no problem and Dupree can't? same coach.


Retards are often emotionally undeveloped and just cannot control the urge to throw tantrums. Give him a break, dos.


So the only logical explanation you give us is that he just doesn't have what it takes to be a top receiver?
What's your point? He is dropping too many balls for a junior top ranked guy.

So you geniuses tell the rant...What's the issue? There is an issue!
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34402 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:57 am to
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So the only logical explanation you give us is that he just doesn't have what it takes to be a top receiver?
What's your point? He is dropping too many balls for a junior top ranked guy.

So you geniuses tell the rant...What's the issue? There is an issue!


The post I responded to spelled it out pretty plainly. Yes, he often uses poor technique. However, he has almost certainly been taught and drilled on proper technique. He just doesn't use it.

This goes back to his high school career. There was some validity to questioning the fact that he didn't get many catches. Sure, it was easily explained by the offense that Curtis runs, but the problem is that he wasn't getting the repetitions that other top receivers got. So, while his measurables are fantastic, he hasn't gotten the repetition of making plays in higher stress game situations.

Maybe eyesight is a problem because he has not done a good job of adjusting to the ball.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85139 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:11 am to
The Miles hate has reached critical mass. He's now being criticized for refusing to let young players play, something that is completely false throughout his entire tenure at LSU. He's getting hate now for a failure to develop or coach WRs, a position where LSU has churned out NFL players since 2005.

It's time for him to go, and Miles deserves a ton of blame for a variety of issues, but these complaints are getting out of hand. In fact, outside of the QB position, the position coaches are often in charge of who plays where and when. If Dupre continues to struggle, history tells us that someone else will play in his spot.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:14 am to
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AU fans did warn us that Craig was a horrible WR coach and we would have bad technique.

I remember this. I was hoping it was just sour grapes on their part but so far they look to have been right.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59761 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:17 am to
he needs that drill colston did at hofstra. one end of the ball has numbers on it. has to call uot number after catch
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85139 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:34 am to
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I was hoping it was just sour grapes on their part but so far they look to have been right


Because one WR has had problems through 2 games?

Dural has been great and people are clamoring for more Davis and Sullivan, all coached by the same WR coach.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 10:50 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59095 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:53 am to
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through 2 games


Come on, now.

This is like saying that our OL has only had problems this season, or that Les Miles has only recently had an issue with developing QBs, or that Les Miles's offensive problems have just recently come to light.

I appreciate what you're doing in sticking up for these kids, but there is no need to walk on eggshells.
Posted by LSUfan00
Member since Sep 2016
399 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:00 am to
CaliTigerForLife, you just went over 80% of the rant's heads with this post.
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
California
Member since Nov 2015
1215 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:11 am to
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1st - I have been criticizing his drop that hit him square in the hands (the one you referenced). I've never played an organized snap in my life, but I do fancy myself on work smarter not harder. Shouldn't he have simply turned upfield and let the ball float in over his shoulder rather than do that spinny jumpy, try to make a highlight reel style of catch? 


You are correct. On that first drop, Etling put the ball exactly where it needed to be. It had the perfect touch on it to drop it right over his shoulder to catch it in stride just as he did on the DeSean Smith TD. Dupre actually makes these type of in stride catches easily. He's made over the shoulder circus catches regularly. His hands would be reversed on this catch and he has no problems keeping them together on balls thrown over the shoulder. All of his problems tend to be when he's facing the throw, which makes it even more baffling as to why he would try to backpeddle on that perfectly thrown ball.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85139 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:49 am to
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I appreciate what you're doing in sticking up for these kids, but there is no need to walk on eggshells.


I don't remember drop problems with Dupre in the past. I could be wrong.
Posted by crescentcity
Member since Feb 2015
1311 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:05 pm to

When you hear NFL scouts talk about WRs, they often talk about the WR's ability to "snatch" the ball out of the air.

I think young players hear things like this and misapply it.

You need to be able the snatch the ball when the DB goes up with you, but most of the time, letting it come to you is really the way to go.

At first I thought DE's pass was behind him--but then watched it again and saw that he somehow got turned around on it.

I think people need to also remember that this is a guy who really is new to the position. He did not get many balls thrown to him at Curtis--and let's face it, hardly any here either.

Very few in game targets.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:20 pm to
I remember last year there were several plays where Dupre was wide open but turned to catch the ball and made the catch but fell down unnecessarily and juggled the ball on the way down.

Each time, I was happy for the reception and the first down but if he just runs through the catch and doesn't bobble the ball, these would have been very big plays.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12282 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Wow. Somebody actually brought some insightful and informative content to this site. I'm at a loss. Thank you very much, brother. Have an upvote.



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