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re: "If LSU fires Les Miles, he will have a job at a major program the next day"

Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12948 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:23 pm to
Half the pumpers said the same thing. Looks like Les wasn't as universally revered as we were all told the last 5 years.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13507 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:40 pm to
I hate to admit I was happy that Les was coming back. I believe that he actually learned something coming that close to being canned. I also hate to say that ESPN was probably right if A&M was his last game. He would have been hired.

But last year we saw the same old offense and piss poor clock management. He learned absolutely nothing. It was painfully clear to the whole country that he had to go. No power 5 school will touch him.

Hope Les gets another job! He is a fantastic person, and every dollar he earns is a dollar LSU saves. But I don't think he wants to settle for a lesser job!
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

This was a quote (or close to it) on ESPN two seasons ago, when everyone thought he was going to be fired if he lost the last game.

Why hasn't he been snatched up at any half arse decent school, like ESPN said he would?


Yea, after all the talking heads and even Dick Satan came to his defense it became really obvious they were either fricking with LSU fans and laughing behind our backs or they were absolutely terrified of waking the sleeping giant and LSU football and its tiny market to be relevant again and analize the Ohio States, Notre Dames and Gumps of the world.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11066 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:52 am to
quote:

We were duped for a LONG time.
You can fool some of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

All the naive and delusional Pump Lumps were duped into submission.

The grounded and realistic ones were never fooled............
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:20 am to
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bc they won't pay as well as LSU is paying him right now


Well, that's more incentive to hire him. They can hire him for practically nothing initially, and let LSU pay the difference. Since when do other companies or universities have to pay an executive or a coach as much as he was making at his previous job? They don't, they only have to pay him what his market value is worth, and in the case of Les Miles, that's not very much.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:26 am to
quote:

Les is purposely screwing up his "job search"


No, not really, he applied and interviewed for every opening as he was supposed to per his contract. Plus there is an incentive to hire him because they can pay him so low relative to other coaches, as LSU will be forced to offset the difference. AD's didn't hire him because they know he is a mediocre coach at best.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:37 am to
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Because he gets 135k every month for 3 years to do nothing. Would you truly accept,a job that would negate free money of that size?


Well, it's not like Miles was even ever offered a job, or that they have to match that amount of money in any event. In fact, they can offer Miles a small fraction of that amount and if he accepts, LSU will still be forced to offset the difference. So apparently your reading comprehensions skills are not quite up to speed, as taking a lower paying job will only offset the amount of money LSU owes him per his contract.

Damn man...I can't see how some of you guys don't lose your heads.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:39 am to
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I just hope we don't make the same mistake and keep Orgeron too long.


Orgeron has a buy out clause too.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:41 am to
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Les the family man has the opportunity to watch his son play on Saturdays if he's not coaching anywhere. He's the next Archie Manning. Get ready to see him shown in the stands every week. Not that I blame him.


It's not like he turned down any jobs. He wasn't even offered any jobs, and he is obligated to accept if he is qualified and offered.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:44 am to
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Why hasn't he been snatched up at any half arse decent school, like ESPN said he would?


It means people like Rickdaddy were duped by Miles' record, but Miles' record wasn't a product of Miles, but instead a product of first Nick Saban and then later LSU and it's location with its excellent football facilities in a Mecca of recruiting. Les Miles was able to recruit so well, not because he was a great recruiter, but instead because he was at the flagship university of Louisiana and where so many great college football recruits grew up dreaming of one day playing for LSU.

Other people like me and people outside the university who didn't have their heads stuck so deep up Miles' arse could readily see that Les Miles was not a great coach by any stretch of the imagination and that he was just a very lucky individual that happened to be at the right place at the right time. Apparently, there were far more of us, than of them. At least outside of LSU.

I'm not saying that Miles was all bad because he did hire some pretty good assistant coaches especially on defense and at running back coach, as those parts of the program generally operated to full potential with the exception of that one year when Miles appointed those co-defensive coordinators. However, the other parts of the program, namely offense, where Miles focused most of his attention suffered more or less throughout his entire tenure at LSU.

Yet you have Miles' brown nosers arguing that Miles was a great coach based on his won/loss record, which was more a function of the LSU program, its marvelous facilities, and recruiting Mecca location, more than it was Les Miles. Not to mention, that half the time Les Miles couldn't even formulate a decent sentence. In fact, had we had a decent coach as opposed to Miles during that same tenure he was here, we would have easily won one, two, or more national championships. A lot of people don't want to believe it, but that's because they were duped by Miles record, which was a product of the program, and not Miles.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:48 am to
Well, to be honest, every job he applied for last year were lesser jobs, but nobody came close to offering him a job.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:20 am to
It's not about money. He obviously wants a job because he's lobbying for one every time he speaks publicly
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64754 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:29 am to
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but nobody came close to offering him a job.


This seems to be the answer to the question in the op. He did not in fact get a job offer from any major school after being let go. ESPN was wrong again. Who knew.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14497 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:29 am to
Totally agree Space Cowboy. Miles lasted as long as he did thanks to some great Defensive hires minus the peveto/? co defensive thing. Funny you mentioned Rickdaddy what a goof
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:03 am to
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Yep, it's private "welfare" on steroids.... but I thought steroids was band by the NCAA?

I'll bet you thought that sounded so clever.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:05 am to
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You can fool some of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

That's not how the saying goes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:06 am to
Once again it's been proven that the anti Miles posters are far more obsessed with Miles than the posters that are labeled" pro miles".
Do you see any pro miles" posters starting threads about Miles or bringing him up in threads that have nothing to do with Miles?

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:08 am to
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We were duped for a LONG time.




If Miles tenure is considered duping lsu fans then we should sign up for more duping. Les Miles' tenure at lsu is one of the 10 most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY. I swear some of you actually believe his tenure wasnt the best in lsu history.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:12 am to
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The grounded and realistic ones were never fooled...........


Were never fooled? Do you understand how cfb coaching works?99 % of cfb coaches dont leave on their own terms. If you keep saying a coach will be fired sooner or later you'll end up being right. If I continue to tell people that today is Wednesday, in enough time I'll be right.

I mean you do realize that no coach in lsu history had the sustained success of miles,right?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:14 am to
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Duck and prepare thy anus.

Another Miles thread prolly aint a good idea right now in light of the marathon thread already in play.



They can't help it Red. Its pretty clear that the Miles's haters care far more about miles than anyone
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