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re: If Les starts JJ over Lee, I will blow an effing gasket.

Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:19 pm to
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Start the better Qb.
I don't care who it is. . .

Whomever the coaches start will be the best man for the job. Has been since Miles has been @ LSU.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:26 pm to
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Whomever the coaches start will be the best man for the job.


Wally Pip.

I am surprised people still believe this. Coaches, like everyone...make mistakes.

Posted by Commando
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:26 pm to
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doesn't know the game plan


This appeared to be the case for the past two years, and yet how many games did he start?
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:30 pm to
Give me JJ or give me death

Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:37 pm to
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Wally Pip.

I am surprised people still believe this. Coaches, like everyone...make mistakes.


That is a terrible argument. Lee started most of 2008 before we saw JJ. JJ has since held onto the starting position while healthy. It isn't like this is Lee's first big chance.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Wally Pip.

I am surprised people still believe this. Coaches, like everyone...make mistakes.

But do you think they make mistakes as the rule, or as the exception? To me, it's kind of telling that you have to go back to 1930 to get a good example.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:39 pm to
CSB bro
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:43 pm to
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That is a terrible argument.


That coaches make mistakes....? How naive are you?

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Lee started most of 2008 before we saw JJ. JJ has since held onto the starting position while healthy. It isn't like this is Lee's first big chance.


What the frick are you talking about? of course JJ has "held on" to the position. I imagine you believe he will be "the best person" for the job when he comes back. After all, he held the job for the past two years. The argument is simply that the best person for the job doesn't always start.

Shouldn't JJ start upon his reinstatement since he is obviously the best person for the job?
Posted by just me
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:48 pm to
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What the frick are you talking about?
Slow down, pup. Let's not lose perspective.

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of course JJ has "held on" to the position. I imagine you believe he will be "the best person" for the job when he comes back. After all, he held the job for the past two years. The argument is simply that the best person for the job doesn't always start.
There's miles and miles of difference between the difficulty of a QB trying to win a job when he has not practiced with the team for six weeks, and a QB trying to win a job over two offseasons.
Posted by Tigerboa12
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:55 pm to
JL deserves to continue the momentum the TEAM has built this year! JJ should consider the transfer.....most don't want him back and it it bad morale for both the TEAM and FANS.....GEAUX MARINES!!!
Posted by The312
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:57 pm to
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If Les starts JJ over Lee, I will blow an effing gasket.


Les won't be stupid enough to immediately hand the reigns to JJ. No frickin' way. I'm more concerned about what might happen during a stretch when Lee struggles. Without JJ, he would just play through it, as most starting QB's do. With JJ, Miles will be tempted to fiddle, which is counterproductive.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:58 pm to
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That coaches make mistakes....? How naive are you?


Of course coaches make mistakes, but your Wally Pipp comparison is terrible.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 3:59 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261673 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:59 pm to

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There's miles and miles of difference between the difficulty of a QB trying to win a job when he has not practiced with the team for six weeks, and a QB trying to win a job over two offseasons.



I am speaking strictly to those who believe the job is JJ's. Miles stuck with JJ when he struggled horribly last year, so there really isn't any telling what could happen a few weeks beyond reinstatement.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261673 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:02 pm to
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but your Wally Pipp comparison is terrible.



Not really. Of course, anything that disagrees with your agenda will be greeted with contempt.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 4:03 pm
Posted by just me
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:04 pm to
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I'm more concerned about what might happen during a stretch when Lee struggles. Without JJ, he would just play through it, as most starting QB's do. With JJ, Miles will be tempted to fiddle, which is counterproductive.
Should Miles not have "fiddled" last year when Jefferson struggled?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:05 pm to

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Should Miles not have "fiddled" last year when Jefferson struggled?


I don't know if you would call situation replacement "fiddling." If Miles would have really "fiddled" you would have seen a new starter after the UF game. I think everyone knows JJ will get playing time.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:06 pm to
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Without JJ, he would just play through it, as most starting QB's do. With JJ, Miles will be tempted to fiddle, which is counterproductive.


When Les sent Lee in it fricked us all up.
Posted by BrightsideTiger412
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:07 pm to
Did JJ get to practice during this mess?
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1457 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:20 pm to
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Should Miles not have "fiddled" last year when Jefferson struggled


After he struggled terribly for several games, he should have fiddled. When Lee clearly outplayed JJ for 2 games in a row, Miles should have done more than fiddle. As we know, he didn't

If Lee were to struggle badly for a couple of games in a row, Miles should fiddle again. Of course, IMO he should use try Mettenberger because he already knows that JJ is not the answer unless he has several weeks to prepare for a game.

He should not fiddle after a couple of poor possessions...which is the worry of many posters on this board.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33955 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 4:21 pm to
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He should not fiddle after a couple of poor possessions...which is the worry of many posters on this board.


Stupidity almost seems smart when it's supported by numbers.
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