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If Canada has an uptempo fast scoring offense..Defense Will Suffer

Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:21 pm
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Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:25 pm to
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If Canada has an uptempo fast scoring offense..Defense Will Suffer by LSU_postman


Canada has said multiple times that he can go fast or he can go slow. He, unlike the previous OC, likes to mix up the tempo up in a game to keep the defenses thinking and keep them from getting comfortable. LSU is not going to become a no-huddle hurry up offense next season.
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:25 pm to
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Ball Control keep the Defense on the Bench. Air Raid/Panty Raid or whatever they all suck!
Posted by ChEgrad
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:26 pm to
True

But based on watching the Pitt-North Carolina game the other day it is not a fast scoring offense. Had tons of time of possession in that game at least. I know nothing of the other games so I don't know if that was atypical.
Posted by Spider John
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:26 pm to
If the offense is outdated and constantly has 3 and outs, does the defense suffer?

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Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:27 pm to
Moscona is an idiot. Yes a fast, efficient offense will get off the field quickly. But it's not as if our offense will be having 2 minute scoring drives every time; mistakes will be made, passes dropped, stalled drives. Playing SEC defenses extrapolates this as well. It will probably be ground and pound a bit too. But I think mostly Aranda will have the defense ready for this possibility
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:27 pm to
True. We should slow it down and run 5 plays per quarter. Maybe limit our passing plays because incomplete passes stop the clock. But when we do throw, go for the home run ball. Really make those rare passes count for something.
Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:30 pm to
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Moscona


Posted by ElectricWizard0
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:32 pm to
I saw a post the other day that said moscona was of this mindset as well, sorry if confused
Posted by LosTigres25
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:35 pm to
Its all about time of possession. And regardless of what some analyst believe , it matters.
Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:39 pm to
Why the hell does everyone think that any offense that isn't a traditional pro-style is a hurry-up offense?
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:40 pm to
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“There was nothing about him. It was all about the team,” LSU coach Ed Orgeron said of what impressed him Tuesday in his interview with Canada. “‘Coach, I’ll do whatever it takes to win. I want to come in here and be a team player. I want to adjust to the personnel that we have and run a great offense.’”


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It’s easy to find evidence of that statement in Canada’s track record through the years. There might be some common trends, but the overriding theme was that he always looked to maximize his team’s strengths, whether that meant running more often or chucking the ball all over the field.


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This season at Pittsburgh, he ran the ball 63 percent of the time behind an offensive line that has three All-ACC performers and two running backs with 1,000-yard seasons on their resumes: James Conner and Qadree Ollison.


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In other seasons, Canada’s tendencies are all over the map.

In his four seasons as offensive coordinator at his alma mater, Indiana, there were seasons when the Hoosiers had the Big Ten’s top passing attack.

The next season at Northern Illinois, Canada helped the Huskies win the MAC title by relying on the dual-threat skills of quarterback Chandler Harnish, the only player at his position to rank in the nation’s top 25 in rushing

at Wisconsin, he shifted to a power running game with three future NFL backs – Montee Ball (1,830 yards, 22 TDs), James White (806 yards, 12 TDs) and Melvin Gordon (621 yards, 3 TDs) – prompting the Badgers to run the ball nearly 70 percent of the time.

Canada went back to a balanced spread in three seasons at NC State,

“Our offense hasn’t changed. The philosophy hasn’t changed. What’s changed, if you look at the places I’ve been, has been the players,” Canada said.


Don't worry about what the talking heads say. The new LSU OC is not an idiot.

https://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/125117/call-his-offense-a-spread-if-you-like-but-lsus-matt-canada-just-wants-to-score-points

Even when he slows the tempo it shouldn't kill the offensive momentum because they are still going to be doing all the shifts and working their butts off pre-snap.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:41 pm to
I don't see how it would be any different than our team with miles. Scoring in 2 minutes and going 3 and out in 2 minutes puts the defense in the same position, just one has us up 7-0.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:43 pm to
Corrected title: Rant complains about unimaginative offense for years, then complains about imaginative offense.
Posted by doya2
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:44 pm to
If you get up early you can play ball control in the second half. With the defense worn out it gives you many options on how to continue to attack.

The problem with air raid offenses is that they aren't built to chew clock. That's not a problem I expect to have.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:47 pm to
False. Success of offensive plays has a much bigger impact on our defensive rest than the tempo in which we run them.

We have more talent than almost any team in the country. We need to play faster to maximize our talent advantage. The more plays in a game, the better.
Posted by stopthestupidity
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:47 pm to
Stop!!
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:54 pm to
Depends.

If it leads to scoring you assume opponent is pressured to pass, which the D loves 1 dimensional offenses.

3 & outs, especially after long drives by the opponents and/or a turnover by our O, yes... that would be detrimental to the D if it happens too often.

I would pose an additional question however. How often did that happen in our past games? I recall the D getting worn down pretty bad at times with our pro-style offense. With that in mind, I think it's a myth that a particular "style" of O is necessarily bad on the D

Just keep in mind neither up-tempo, HUNH, or spread automatically equals passing. Especially spread; most good spread teams run the ball more than they pass.

You can hurry to the line, or no-huddle, and still not snap the ball AND when you do keep it on the ground. Especially when you're doing lots of shifts like Canada.
Posted by DALSU
Miami
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:57 pm to
As long as it's not predictable I am fine with it.
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