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re: Hypothetical rewind: CAP ONE BOWL 2005---coaching vacancy
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:22 am to Moustache
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:22 am to Moustache
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Exactly my point. Spurrier is doing phenomenally well considering the money/talent that is available to USCe.
You guys act as if South Carolina is broke and barely spends money.
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Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:22 am to Prominentwon
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f he were as good as you claim, it doesn't matter where he is at.
What is their recruiting budget? Do you know?
West Virginia was a play or two from a National Championship appearance in '05.
Facilities?
Are you gonna seriously sit there in good faith with a straight face and say that USCe facilities and money even compares to UTenn, UF, UGA, Bama, LSU, and Auburn?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:22 am to Prominentwon
naw, and i'm not a big spurrier fan like M-baby
but it's like comparing LSU to Arky...you have to judge the programs on different standards b/c LSU is blessed by insane talent in state
but it's like comparing LSU to Arky...you have to judge the programs on different standards b/c LSU is blessed by insane talent in state
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:23 am to Moustache
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to UTenn, UF, UGA, Bama, LSU, and Auburn?
not LSU and Bama, no.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:24 am to Prominentwon
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You guys act as if South Carolina is broke and barely spends money.
compared to where it started, Spurrier has built it up and they are spending money as success comes in.
They didn't spend that kind of money they do now until Spurrier (and Holtz) to a lesser extent built it up.
LA talent>SC
South carolina has to split talent with Clemson.
Bama facilities, history, and eveything else helps them take GA.
you are absolutely delusional if you think Spurrier hasn't done a phenomenal job at USCe.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:25 am to Prominentwon
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ot LSU and Bama, no.
they have nowhere near the facilities and budget/money that Tennessee has either.
They don't have the money/facilities UGA has.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:25 am to Prominentwon
I feel like I'm posting in 1997. Are we seriously talking about having Spurrier as a head coach?
That ship has sailed years ago. He's not elite anymore.
That ship has sailed years ago. He's not elite anymore.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:25 am to Moustache
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they have nowhere near the facilities and budget/money that Tennessee has either.
They don't have the money/facilities UGA has.
Show me some numbers.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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but it's like comparing LSU to Arky...y
Pretty close, which is why I like Petrino over Spurrier.
Spurrier's main issue is trying to get a good QB to South Carolina as their state rarely produces any.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:26 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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I feel like I'm posting in 1997. Are we seriously talking about having Spurrier as a head coach?
Moustache is trying any and every way to discredit Miles as the coach at LSU
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:27 am to Prominentwon
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Show me some numbers.
If you're interested go look them up, but I'm not wasting an hour on google to show you something that should be fricking obvious.
Money aside though, South carolina is in a state that doesn't put out near the amount of talent as LA, FL, GA, and AL.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:27 am to Prominentwon
Maybe we can get Lou Holtz. I mean he won a national Championship for a team that hasn't sniffed another one since. That has to mean he's awesome.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:28 am to Moustache
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that should be fricking obvious.
I just looked up their facilities.
Sure doesn't look obvious to me.
Show me the numbers since you are so sure about it. Have you ever looked them up?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:30 am to Prominentwon
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oustache is trying any and every way to discredit Miles as the coach at LSU
I'm not discrediting Miles. Just because I believe Spurrier and Petrino are better coaches doesn't mean that I am taking anything away from Miles.
If I was offered a trade right now, i would only trade for Petrino or Saban and nobody else.
That's it. That is a huge credit to the job Miles has done.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:32 am to Moustache
2005 wouldn't have been the same record INO. No way SOS would have blown a big lead to UT. Instead of getting all conservative and trying to hang on he would have opened it up and put a beat down on the Vols.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:33 am to Moustache
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Steve Spurrier
2005----Probably the same record because of Katrina.
2006----NC, I have no doubt we had more talent than UF.
2007----NC, but with only 1 loss somewhere in there.
2008----10-2
2009----10-2
2010----Possible NC year, but I think we were a year away on offense.
2011----NC
Really, you expect to win 3-4 NCs every 7 years?
You have NO CLUE!
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:34 am to Prominentwon
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Show me the numbers since you are so sure about it. Have you ever looked them up?
REad this article. Keep in mind USCe wasn't spending like this until Spurrier built it.
Plus, lack of history makes it hard to pull kids from GA and FL, which is the only way SC can succeed being as they have to split a state with Clemson and the state doesn't have a shitload of talent every year.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:35 am to LSUnKaty
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eally, you expect to win 3-4 NCs every 7 years?
I never said I EXPECT that. I'm just saying that the talent was certainly there for it.
LSU has had unbelievable talent since about 2003.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:38 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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Maybe we can get Lou Holtz. I mean he won a national Championship for a team that hasn't sniffed another one since. That has to mean he's awesome.
I am definitely overrating Spurrier. But for the most part you and most people UNDERRATE him because he isn't winning NCs at south fricking carolina.
Keep in mind that history and talent available counts for a shite load more than much else.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:38 am to BeeFense5
The thing that sux is having saban in the same division. Miles has seen succes cus his style works when ur vastly superior talent wise than every team but 1 on ur schedule. Before saban it was meyer and UF. Miles is a good coach and was a good hire. 1st he hasnt left us like a lot of other coaches, with stability at the head i see LSU continuing to have success, but not as much as bama and saban.
If you would have asked me uesterday i would have said sack his arse. For me its all about the qb position from here on out. If his recruited qbs continue to fail then ill be seriously rethinking my stance on finding someone better. Oh and no way i wanted patrino. Spurrier yes, but his shipped has sailed now so i think long term Les was still a good hire.
If you would have asked me uesterday i would have said sack his arse. For me its all about the qb position from here on out. If his recruited qbs continue to fail then ill be seriously rethinking my stance on finding someone better. Oh and no way i wanted patrino. Spurrier yes, but his shipped has sailed now so i think long term Les was still a good hire.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:45 am
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