re: Humorless, sociopathic robot or a goofball that loves his job.

Yeah, people saying "championships" go on over to the Alabama message board.

That tired, stiff, joyless persona of Saban's is fine when they're winning, but they're all calling him an idiot right now.

And people forget what it was like when Saban was here losing to UAB. Same thing, people wanted him gone. Saban has to win championships for them to even tolerate him.

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Which would you rather have?

The robot gets more wins but he is creepy.

Watching Saban tonight made me like Les more despite the stupid shite he does from time to time.

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I will not compare the two.

I will say this. Watch Les' post game conference. His priorities are in the right place. Yes he wants to coach his players to excellence, but he cares deeply about them as people. Call me idealistic but I still believe that 18,19,20,21 year olds competing in intercollegiate athletics are very impressionable people and a coach can have a huge influence on them as human beings. I want to root for a guy I know will coach them, but also teach them to be great men, leaders in their community, and great fathers. I dont know him personally but from all accounts, all indications and stories written Les is a living example of all those. I like having a guy like that as a face of the football program and largely the public face of the school.

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Nah, you're right. It's not like I heard these people calling in on BR sports talk radio with my own ears or anything after the game. But yeah, by all means, continue with your condescending rant.

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I will. You are a retard.

Enjoy thinking LSU paid $1.6 million a year to ink Saban - 3rd highest salary in CFB at the time - and OMG idiots like you on the radio said he should be gone.

And make that your point.

Laughable.

I think Saban's a hell of a coach, but people here look at him like some demi-god. Saban gets more gifts than anyone. Somehow Bama gets to play for a National Championship without winning their division or conference against a team with everything to lose? bullshite. If Saban was as good of a coach as everyone makes him out to be, he'd have a god damned kicker worthy of an SEC team. You'd think with 30 recruits a year, he could get one.

I'm just sick of Saban being idolized by people who have a mancrush on Saban while forgetting his time at LSU (Outside of winning a disputed championship in '03). Les Miles is a great coach and has kept LSU relevant while every other powerhouse in the SEC has crumbled at least once. I'll take him because he seems to love LSU and keeps the team successful. It's just moronic to act like it's out of character for LSU to have 2-3 loss seasons when our past two championships were a 1 loss debated championship year and a 2 loss championship year. Only one team wins a 'ship a year, and LSU being in the running for it every year says something about the team. There isn't another more difficult division to play in than the SEC West, and everyone stumbles or has close games against people they shouldn't. Les Miles, for all of his flaws, is a good coach and a good guy, and I'm not going to sit here looking over at Bama with thoughts of Saban oiled up with no shirt on like some of you. The fact of the matter is that Saban screws up just as much, but most of you just make excuses for him because you're infatuated with him.

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I am old school too. My coaches were old school hard nosed type coaches. They resembled Saban more than Miles. They were strict and demanded discipline. They did not try to be your buddy. It's what I am used to so I have no problem with Saban's coaching style. My coaches never danced to rap music on the sideline and they still managed to relate to the players.

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i love how people think clm is just a buddy as you say to the players,I mean do you think clm is throwing water balloons and spitballs and playing Jokes with players in practice,,,,,, while clm is not as good an X's and O's guy as Saban trust me when I say he is very disciplined and a hard arse on these players.....the difference is clm takes up for his players and don't throw them under the bus to the media in pressers like Saban does .... frick nick Saban I wouldn't trust that piece of shite to be our coach.....clm has as many sec championships here as the great Saban does at bama....

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You act like Saban regularly lost to UAB and neve won championships. That UAB loss didn't mean anything in the long run.

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I ain't here to suck Saban off, but WTF is wrong with people and their revisionist history.

Saban's worst moment while he was coaching LSU was the loss to Ole Miss in 2001. 2nd would be the loss in Bama in 2002 (I think). He wasn't really coaching LSU against Iowa in 2004 and UAB is meaningless.

7 wins in 2 seasons. 7-15 record. Saban turns it into 8 wins, beats Bama at TS first time is ages, bowl win. 10 wins, SEC Championship, Sugar Bowl win, beats UF at the Swamp in first time in God knows how long, wins the National Title at LSU in his 4th season.

Yeah, I care about UAB.

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You act like Saban regularly lost to UAB and neve won championships. That UAB loss didn't mean anything in the long run.

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He did regularly lose 3-5 games a year, except for one year and left the second he could. That's after losing to Iowa, of course. Saban is worshiped for having records that Les Miles would be crucified for. The problem is that Saban gets credit for his championships and awards. Les Miles doesn't get shite for his. It's like dating someone when you're not over an ex-girlfriend. You'll always overlook the new person's good qualities because they aren't Nick Saban. Stop thinking of Nick Saban when you pleasure yourself and just try to see the good elsewhere. People defending Miles aren't ruining the program. People who turn on the team and make stupid arse comments all the time with NO loyalty, win or loss, who are ruining the program. When players and ex-players are vocal about how terrible your fanbase is, you have a problem. It's not Miles that they dislike. It's all of you. It's hard to play for shithead people with no capability for rational thought or emotional stability.

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In contrast, go watch Saban's post-game interview tonight. He's saying that if the field goal team would have covered "like they should have", they wouldn't have lost like they did.

What a dick. You line up for a FG attempt, you have one thing in mind: you block the guy in front of you and keep him low, so your kick isn't blocked. I guarantee you, you don't go for a release to go downfield and cover, or you'll never see the field again.

Bama's FG team did what they were supposed to do, and the kid got off a good kick. It's not their fault the coach chose to try a 60 yd kick. Saban simply fricked up, got burned, and instead of saying "that's on me, I made that call", he blames the kids.

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This is why I dislike Saban. He doesn't look good because he never messes up. He looks good because he passes the blame onto everyone else. If everyone here thinks that Miles is somehow always responsible as the head coach, why does Saban always get a pass on that shite? A lot of people in the fanbase adore him because he's a narcissistic a-hole like they are, and they love seeing him throw people under the bus. Saban fits the Rant mentality. Like I said before, I don't think he's a bad coach or a bad person. I'm just not lining up to trade Miles for him.

3>1 no matter how you look at it

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I ain't here to suck Saban off, but WTF is wrong with people and their revisionist history

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I don't see anyone diminishing Saban's accomplishments at LSU. But Les Miles has matched those same accomplishments here, and then some.

And I don't know what you mean by "revisionist history." My only comment was when LSU was losing to teams he shouldn't lose to, the same type of people that want Les Miles gone now for losing to OM wanted Saban gone then for losing to UAB. Nothing's changed.

There was no love affair or any special appreciation for Saban when he wasn't having championship seasons here. There was no appreciation for his X's and O's prowess. It was all about the results, and when Saban wasn't getting those results, the talk was about "who's going to be the next coach," just like it is now.

But people create all of this fake nostalgia and want to think that things were different when Saban was here. It wasn't different.

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I don't see anyone diminishing Saban's accomplishments at LSU. But Les Miles has matched those same accomplishments here, and then some.

And I don't know what you mean by "revisionist history." My only comment was when LSU was losing to teams he shouldn't lose to, the same type of people that want Les Miles gone now for losing to OM wanted Saban gone then for losing to UAB. Nothing's changed.

There was no love affair or any special appreciation for Saban when he wasn't having championship seasons here. There was no appreciation for his X's and O's prowess. It was all about the results, and when Saban wasn't getting those results, the talk was about "who's going to be the next coach," just like it is now.

But people create all of this fake nostalgia and want to think that things were different when Saban was here. It wasn't different.

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The problem is that a lot of people still remembered the shitty times not long before, and the majority of the fanbase put that stupid shite in check quickly. Saban was appreciated for his success and his terrible moments were forgotten. Miles hasn't EVER had that type of treatment from the fans. He isn't Saban, and therefore, he can never add up to Saban to them. With success, the level of stupidity was amplified. It's similar to the Saints and their success causing a sudden decrease in the number of diehard Cowboys/Patriots fans that I know. They take their "I only support winners!" bullshite to the fanbase and scream their stupidity at everyone else. It makes trying to enjoy the team miserable. There were always stupid people in both fanbases, as there always is. It's just that there was a majority of pleasant, optimistic people who would crush the overly-dramatic bunch. LSU's fanbase is becoming similar to the Raiders fanbase. They think that being as obnoxious, trashy, and awful as possible makes then a respected fanbase when everyone else is looking at it like it's a drunk homeless man.