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re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:58 am to
Do you realize Saban wasn't the coach for decades before 05? And it was 2 top 5 finishes.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:59 am to
No buddy you don't remember it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:59 am to
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doesn't understand process or what building a program consists of. He's young he doesn't understand what the transition was like or how hard it was. And he will never give any coach not named Miles credit for anything.


I most certainly do. But wins and losses are wgat makes you a top 5 program.
Says the guy that gives miles zero credit.
Posted by Mayhawman
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:59 am to
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He's 63 Sabans 65 age isn't the reason that I can promise you.

Who's saying he has the success of Saban or is as good a coach? LOL.
Are you comparing because you're dumb, or just a Saban worshiper?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:01 am to
No the past doesn't make you a top 5 program the present does . The fact that we established we could do it in 03 us validation the fact that we had NFL stockpiled said that we were a top 5 threat to do it again. Hense top 5 program.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:02 am to
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Do you realize Saban wasn't the coach for decades before 05? And it was 2 top 5 finishes.



And? Point to where i said he was.

Saban's tenure= 16 losses 12 conf losses 2 10 win seasons 2 top 15 seasons = top 5 program
YET
MIles last 5 years=15 losses 12 conf
3 10 win seasons (really 4 with mcneese) 3 top 15 finishes = destroying the program.

Only an idiot would say lsu was a top 5 program in 2004
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:02 am to
The question was how does a top 5 coach not have a job. You said age I named a top. 5 coach who's older why are you having trouble with this ? Oh I know why Nvmnd.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:03 am to
Ricky will never understand this logic.... he has Miles stuck in his head and even the last 4 years he thinks LSU is an elite program... yet now that O made this team look great, he thinks LSU is not elite anymore.... he is very sad....
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:04 am to
You keep changing your argument. The comment was we had 1 top 5 finish in the past 2 decades which was not true and you were using that argument to refute us being a top 5 program. The past 2 decades have nothing to do with the current state of the program is the point.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:04 am to
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o the past doesn't make you a top 5 program the present does


Holy shite. You have no fricking clue what youre talking.
The present was 5 losses, 1 loss, 3 losses.

Fsu, ohio state, usc,miami,Oklahoma, were all easily better programs than lsu in 2004 and thats just thinking about it wothout looking up records
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:06 am to
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You keep changing your argument. The comment was we had 1 top 5 finish in the past 2 decades which was not true and you were using that argument to refute Saban building a top 5 program. The past 2 decades have nothing to do with the current state of the program is the point.


Im not changing shite. 1 top 5 finish in a decade does not make you a top 5 program. Period.

Answer this simple question.
If lsu was a top 5 program then why did the greatest coach of our generation lose 3 games 5 years into his tenure?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47642 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:09 am to
Wow what the frick does 02 have to do with 05 when discussing a college roster? None of the same players were on that team yet you bring it up as if it means the world. You don't understand or you just argue because you refuse to say anything good happened without your hero. We were a top 5 program in 05 we had the number 1 number 3 number 5, 6 nfl draft picks on that team we had three more 1st rounders 2 more all pros all on the 05 team. In fact besides 2001/02 Miami that was the most talented college football team of alltime that's why they were a top 5 program. Idiot.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:10 am to
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The past 2 decades have nothing to do with the current state of the program is the poi


Ok. You arent a top 5 program if youhave 1 top 5 finish in the last 5 years. You are not a top 5 program if you have all of 2 10 win seasons in 5 years. You are not a top 5 program if you only have 2 top 15 finishes in 5 years.

If youre saying saban laid the ground work for lsu to be a top 5 program the yes i would agree. If you said lsu was on ita way to becoming a top 5 program i would agree.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:12 am to
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Wow what the frick does 02 have to do with 05 when discussing a college roster?


Are you fricking kidding me? You think programs move up and down in prestige over 1 year?

If youre saying miles was left with top 5 talent then i agree. But in 2005 lsu was not one of the top 5 PROGRAMS in cfb.

Ok then miles was left with a 3 loss team that finished 16th
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47642 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:12 am to
Simple he inherited a 3 win team. He went 8-5 that year he went 7-6 his first year at bama. Your point is?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47642 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:14 am to
Keep dancing around the truth and avoiding the facts their all posted so everyone is seeing you do it. 2002 to 2005 is 1 year? My god you really think you're sneaky but you're not. Not at all.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:15 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:14 am to
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2008 Jarrett Lee INT year



This. The mad hatter died that year.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:14 am to
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Simple he inherited a 3 win team. He went 8-5 that year he went 7-6 his first year at bama. Your point is?


That if lsu was a top 5 program, we woukdnt be losing 3 games in year 5 of his tenure
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47642 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:17 am to
The number 1 pick was sitting on the bench getting ready to take over in 04 that's all we were missing check the stats Mr. Stat man in 05 he was there and normal humans that follow sports knew this. For someone who lives to claim their a stickler for stats you sure do ignore a lot of em.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:18 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:18 am to
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Keep dancing around the truth and avoiding the facts their all posted so everyone is seeing you do it. Lol




Holy shite im the one posting facts. Youre posting your proven ignorant opinion.

You have not posted 1 fact.

Your hypocrisy is showing bright.

Saban's tenure= 2 10 win seasons 2 top 15 finishes = GREATEST TOP5 PROGRAM ON EARTH

miles last 5 years= 3 10 win seasons 3 top 15 finishes= he sucks


Youre proving your hypocrisy and it further proves you have a double didgit iq. Im posting facts about wins and losses and youre posting an ignorant opinion.

Even people that hate me on here admit i know my shite. You are so blinded by miles hate that you cant even admit the type of program he was left with.

Usc, Oklahoma,ohio state,fsu,and miami are easily better programs than lsu in 2004. The fact that you cant admit this is telling brother.



This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:21 am
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