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How much would we have won by with normal refs?

Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27721 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:32 am
We were easily the better team and IMO the way we played we would have won by 10-15 with a normal called game.

Its amazing how Birmingham won't let win the conference.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20990 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:41 am to
They have beaten us like 14 straight times or something.

They are the more complete team.

But Mulkey has us nipping at them and will eventually break through the wall.

At that point, Dawn will be Dusk as the sun sets on South Carolina.

Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15178 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:47 am to
We still wouldn’t have
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70302 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:51 am to
quote:

How much would we have won by with normal refs?


If there's anything I've learned from watching both men's and women's college basketball, watching college football, watching college baseball and softball, it's this:

THOSE WERE NORMAL REFS.

They're all fricking terrible.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5174 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:

We still wouldn’t have
If they called even half of the muggings that Reese (and Morrow) received under the goal, we would have easily won that game.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30303 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

We were easily the better team


That's a stretch.

quote:

IMO the way we played we would have won by 10-15 with a normal called game.



Do you think so? Do you think officiating accounted for a 17 to 22-point swing? I think LSU could have won it with better officiating, sure, but I don't see a 17-point swing unless LSU also cleans up their passing as well. Too many turnovers and too many poor shot selections.

These are two telling stats.

Turnovers LSU-17, SC-13

FGs LSU-25/67 for 37.3%, SC-28/65 for 43.1

Here are a couple of surprising stats to me

Fouls LSU-15, SC-16 This seemed like it would have been a bit different based on the calls that were missed on SC.

Rebounds: LSU dominated here, particularly on the offensive glass.
Off LSU-17, SC-11
Def LSU-27, SC-26
Total LSU-44, SC-37
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5174 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:14 am to
quote:

These are two telling stats.

Turnovers LSU-17, SC-13

FGs LSU-25/67 for 37.3%, SC-28/65 for 43.1
Some of those turnovers/missed shots were a direct result of uncalled hard fouls committed by SC on Reese and Morrow under the goal. I certainly believe there would have been enough free throws to win the game.

Someone else posted Reese averages 8 free throw attempts a game for the season, but she only had 3 total in 2 games against SC. It is not at all a stretch to say we win if the officials call even half of the fouls that they should have.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4043 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:17 am to
We played like shite. Way too many turnovers and missed layups.
Posted by JeffSpartan85
Grayson
Member since Jan 2017
395 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:24 am to
Here is something to think about from your stats: 1) How many of those turnovers could have been fouls called on SC? If even 3 are fouls, that’s 3 more possessions and maybe 3 more points for us and 3 less for them. That’s a 6 point swing. 2) How many missed fouls were there on our shots? I would say easily 4 or 5. That’s another 6 points we probably score based on averages. Plus our FG % goes to maybe 27/65 for 41.5% and a couple more free throws. That would also make the score around 81-76 for us. That’s without including the momentum swing for us. That being said, it’s over. Let’s get ready for the tournament, use the momentum we have been building lately, and hopefully we can play them in the finals with better calls and spank that booty!

Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
1624 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:


We played like shite. Way too many turnovers and missed layups


The officiating was a little one sided but LSU had far too many careless turnovers.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30303 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Some of those turnovers/missed shots were a direct result of uncalled hard fouls committed by SC on Reese and Morrow under the goal.


Some were but there were a lot of ill-advised shots taken and a lot of really bad passes again. Some right to SC players.

quote:

It is not at all a stretch to say we win if the officials call even half of the fouls that they should have.



FTR I do think LSU probably wins if the game is properly called, I just don't think it is a double-digit win. I think the two teams are fairly evenly matched. I think LSU's top players are better than SCs and I think SCs bench is better and much deeper than LSU's. That is why I think it will usually be a close game whenever they play. If there is a blowout, it will be because one team loses a key player to injury or foul trouble or the team loses their composure.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6285 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:57 am to
If we shoot 4 less air ball layups, we win. Or even 4 less layups that hit the underside of the backboard.

It was a pathetic display.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11417 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Tim Gambill
Member since Nov 2023
419 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 4:13 pm to
Careful. Speaking truth like that may result in you getting asked to sign up to officiate, lol.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23712 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 4:27 pm to
The team would have won if it hadn't gone cold for a period of time in the second half. It wasn't the refs. It's 100% in the control of this team whether they win it all.
Posted by TigerFanatic1
Monroe, LA
Member since Aug 2007
2094 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:30 pm to
Missed layups and points off of turnovers lost the game. Turnovers didn’t seem too lopsided, but they were in open space and SC outmatched LSU guards for easy points.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
3914 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:31 pm to
We easily win that game with even mildly competent refs that weren’t corrupt. Make no mistake about it, the gump refs had their marching orders. Birmingham will try its hardest to prevent us from having success.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
5502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:11 pm to
LSU wins by 5 points. Some of there players foul out, too.
Posted by KCSunshine
Midland Texas
Member since Dec 2019
428 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 4:20 am to
Lack of depth gonna hurt in tournament
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14499 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:37 am to
quote:

They have beaten us like 14 straight times or something.


Last year they were clearly better than us and had we played them in the finals and not Iowa IMHO we would have lost and likely lost handily.

We played toe-to-toe with them twice this year - I think our starting five can match up with theirs all day long - where they have us is depth and the style they play which requires physicality will lead to fouls and that's where the depth comes in, we don't have as many gals to bring in when we get in foul trouble as they do.

Would like to have the gal who got hurt early in the year and would have been nice to have Poe this last game but we don't so have to find a way to adapt and overcome that one thing.

quote:

At that point, Dawn will be Dusk as the sun sets on South Carolina.

I sincerely believe that's why Staley made the comments she did last year, it was not taking up for her friend as some suggested, it was she knew her reign as unchallenged Queen of SEC women's basketball was coming to an end.

Oh, they'll still be a top 3 team in the country every year, but it ain't gonna be cake in the SEC like it was for her....she knew it too.
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