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re: How many coaches have gone 5-1 in bowls over the last 6 years?

Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:09 pm to
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holding,


happens EVERY PLAY.



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pass interference


Happens EVERY PLAY.


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and possession of the ball arent subjective calls?






THIS DOES NOT happen evry play. You are chasing your tail here. LSU DID NOT deserve to win that game. The play calling was shite, AND the Doucet play matters ZERO IF LSU executes in the 1st half when they had the chance.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:11 pm to
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holding, pass interference and possession of the ball arent subjective calls?


not to the extent of a foul in basketball.

the PI call on Doucet was over turned because the ball was tipped, that's not subjective, he tipped it. Was that the right call? Most thought it only applied to a ball tipped at the line, but I do not have the NCAA rule book memorized. IIRC the SEC said the call was right based on the rule. Just because the outcome was not what you wanted does not make int a bad call.

The possession issue on Hester is somewhat subjective, what's not is that he dropped the ball and by doing so forced the ref's to make a call. Why do you keep ignoring that fact?
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:11 pm to


But those are subjective plays right?
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:17 pm to
So it's only impossible in football?

Horse. shite.

We got fricked multiple times all on "subjective calls" period.

The NBA players could have done something to overcome the calls against them as well but you don't count that because it fricks up your argument.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:17 pm to
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ou said anyone that complains about refs affecting the out come of the games loser and insinuated that it is impossible


right on the first part, wrong on the second.

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Tim Donaghy is relevant to your opinion as proof that refs affect the outcome.


Since we are talking about LSU-AU in 2006 and he is an NBA offical, he's not relevant at all. What he is is an excuse for you to dodge the questions of the bad plays made by LSU.

My point is not that officals can not impact the outcome, only that the players have more of an impact. I'll revise since you want to apply an all or nothing tone.

Whining about a questionable call while ignoring bad plays by the teams is what losers do. The refs did not cost LSU the 06 Auburn game, LSU did.


Do you think this is pass interference? Did it affect the outcome of the game? Are you outraged by it?

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Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:18 pm to
LSU'S D was AWESOME in this game. ONE drive at the tart of the 3rd Quarter, when AU went 73 yds on 10 plays was the difference FOR THEM. They knew LSU 'S game plan was shite and could stop it. IF the REFS were SOOOOOO BAD why didn't AU score more than what they did in that game.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 4:25 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:21 pm to
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But those are subjective plays right?


No, Hester dropped the ball and the pass to Doucet was tipped before it got to him, those are indisputable facts.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:24 pm to
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No, Hester dropped the ball and the pass to Doucet was tipped before it got to him, those are indisputable facts.
whether Hester had possession isn't subjective?

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:25 pm to
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whether Hester had possession isn't subjective?


read my last post and STFU.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:29 pm to
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read my last post and STFU.
was I talking to you? And I'll cut the lights off when I'm done FYI
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 4:30 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:33 pm to
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And I'll cut the lights off when I'm done FYI



OK dude. How come we can't start a thread about the 2004 LSU team that lost to AU after that TERRIBLE x-tra point deal with AU getting a second chance??? BTW THAT call was BAD, BUT DIDn'T cost LSU the game. THINK about it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:38 pm to
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We got fricked multiple times all on "subjective calls" period.



right it was the calls not the the execution lets blame the refs because Hester didn't hang on the ball. Its their fault Lets blame them because Russell under threw a pass. All their fault.

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The NBA players could have done something to overcome the calls against them as well but you don't count that because it fricks up your argument.


No, it fricks up your strawman argument. My argument is that blaming refs is what crybaby losers do and that applies to NBA fans as well. If Blazer or King fans want to whine about calls in the WCF, I'm sure I can find an easy missed shot in one of the 4 games they lost.

Bringing up Donaghy is you arguing with yourself. Even if there was a game the refs fixed in some sport, somewhere, the 06 LSU-Auburn game was not one of them. You just can't accept it. So you have to resort the the Greg Brady exact words games and deflect the issue at hand which is the 2006 LSU-Auburn game.


Its not a question of its either impossible for refs to impact a game or that i never has ever happened. But in any game you want to blame refs, there was a play that the losing fans team blew that also affected the outcome of the game.

This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 4:40 pm
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:43 pm to
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While we're on the topic of refjobs.. this has absolutely nothing on the arse rape we got from the refs against Ole Miss (the 'clock it' game), we got screwed.


This has nothing on the Auburn game when we got hosed on a pass interference call.
LINK
Love the comments on this video. You can tell the homers from the haters big time. And it's hilarious.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:43 pm to
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BTW THAT call was BAD, BUT DIDn'T cost LSU the game. THINK about it.
actually wasnt that the right call but it was never called again?

Regardless I'm not talking about one or two bad calls where they more or less balance out to each team. This is the only game I've seen that qualifies.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:43 pm to
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whether Hester had possession isn't subjective?


Define subjective. He dropped the ball, that's indisputable. If you think the refs made the wrong call, fine, but that's really just proving my point that whining about refs is for losers. If Hester doesn't drop the ball, there is no call to be made, period. That's the important part you keep missing. LSU mistakes don't cost us the game, but the refs mistakes do, hence you are acting like a crybaby.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 5:03 pm
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:46 pm to
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06 LSU-Auburn game was not one of them
your opinion. We got fricked in that game. Plain and simple.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:46 pm to
There's no point in arguing with him PJ, he's resorting to strawmen and semantics. LSU lost the 06 Auburn game because we did not play well, that the bottom line. He just won't accept it, because he's got an easy scapegoat.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:49 pm to
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We got fricked in that game. Plain and simple.


yep, we did, we got fricked by a poor game plan and poor execution. plain and simple.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:54 pm to
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Regardless I'm not talking about one or two bad calls where they more or less balance out to each team. This is the only game I've seen that qualifies.


So I guess LSU lost to AU LAST YEAR Cause of the refs. I mean they ONLY LOST by 7 and got outgained by almost 300 yds. BUT LOST by ONLY 7. DAMN MUST have been the refs.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 5:16 pm to
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So I guess LSU lost to AU LAST YEAR Cause of the refs. I mean they ONLY LOST by 7 and got outgained by almost 300 yds. BUT LOST by ONLY 7. DAMN MUST have been the refs.
speaking of straw men........
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