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re: How do you explain Miles treatment of Lee now that he was not ...
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:56 am to Choctaw
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:56 am to Choctaw
I remember during the Miss State game thinking
I hope JJ gets back soon! The answer is Lee was
a backup and still is. The only thing recruits see
with this is they better work hard to play here.
I hope JJ gets back soon! The answer is Lee was
a backup and still is. The only thing recruits see
with this is they better work hard to play here.
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:56 am to Tigahs24Seven
quote:
I think that if my son was considering LSU this would be a legitimate question in the back of my mind.
Just to play devil's advocate here - but if Miles said to you - "OK - if your son becomes the number one QB but gets injured or suspended for a game or two, it is over for him unless we need him to come back in. If our 2nd stringer does OK, your boy will see no more meaningful playing time."
That is the other extreme of what you are upset about.
I, too, am in a quandary about how Lee has been treated, but it is apparant to everyone that JJ is not the same qb that caused us all to want a change last year. And it is even more evident that Lee is not the player to stand up to the physical abuse our qb will face against AL.
I wish he had gotten more meaningful time on the field as a 'thank you' for his superb performance in the first 8 games, but I am sure I don't have all the information Les does.
My only solace is that Les does not seem to be the kind of coach - or man - who would allow personal feelings impact how he uses his personnel.
'tis a mystery.
but
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:57 am to Tigahs24Seven
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Also, quite obviously, your parents did not produce a super duper academic spawn.
quote:
legitamate
hilarious.
quote:
now that the academic question is dead
Jefferson gives us a better chance to beat Alabama. It isn't that hard to understand. Jarrett Lee is a head case who loves to hit Bama DBs between the numbers.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:58 am to goldengorilla
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:58 am to Tigahs24Seven
also don't y'all remember that horrible season Lee had two years ago, what was it seven pick sixes?
The better QB is on the field. /end/
The better QB is on the field. /end/
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:59 am to graychef
quote:
Lee cannot beat Bama. JJ can.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:00 am to Statestreet
quote:Correct. Having eligibility for the bowl game does not mean he never was in jeopardy of losing it. Everything that I've heard is that he was in trouble.
could still be grade or class issues, team meetings, practice....
No one should be surprised he pulled through; it would be an abject failure for himself and the department to lose eligibility given all the resources they have to avoid just this problem.
And it does not mean that Gilbeau was wrong. At all. Miles gets the last laugh, and that's fine.
I hope Lee gets his chance in the game, not because JJ failed but because he's earned it.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:00 am to MindenBengal
quote:
The only thing recruits see
with this is they better work hard to play here.
good post. but TD isn't a typewriter. You don't have to hit enter once you get to the end of a line
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:00 am to goldengorilla
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Sending him out just to take a knee? You can say what you want about Miles, that was a shite move.
Interesting, I have watched football for years and have seen the backup go in for victory formation hundreds of times and no one complains. But now it is a "shite" move?
you can't make this kind of stupidity up 
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:00 am to Ice Cold
quote:
Correct. Having eligibility for the bowl game does not mean he never was in jeopardy of losing it. Everything that I've heard is that he was in trouble.
No one should be surprised he pulled through; it would be an abject failure for himself and the department to lose eligibility given all the resources they have to avoid just this problem.
And it does not mean that Gilbeau was wrong. At all. Miles gets the last laugh, and that's fine.
I hope Lee gets his chance in the game, not because JJ failed but because he's earned it.
Wow. I agree with an Ice post. Maybe logical minds can conquer idiocy on this board here and there
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:01 am to Elleshoe
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However, I think that if my son was considering LSU this would be a legitimate question in the back of my mind.
You can play this game ad-nauseum. What about Shep, 5 star #1 rated runing QB. Les screwed him some other QB recruits will be scared away. Insert any big-time recruit who doesn't get the PT he thinks he deserves.
FWIW though, I agree that at the very least, CLM should have given JL a sniff earlier in both the Arkie and Ga games. Lee is a sympathetic character, no doubt about it, but people are really tired of hearing about it and it's just one of those frustrating questions we'll probably never get to the bottom of.
At least until LEE writes his tell all memoir,
"Confessions of a jilted QB. How Les Miles shamed me and destroyed my self-esteem while winning a National Championship."
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:01 am to Ice Cold
Even if he was about to flunk out, does that explain or justify sending him out there to take a knee? That's the punishment? Seems stupid to me. Just sit him altogether
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:01 am to Tigahs24Seven
quote:.
However, I think that if my son was considering LSU this would be a legitimate question in the back of my mind.
If my son is not the qb who gives us the best chance to win, then he shouldn't start.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:02 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
Even if he was about to flunk out, does that explain or justify sending him out there to take a knee?
it happens all the fricking time in sports breh. Brady used to trot Maravich out at the end of games to appease the blue hairs and get him on the court with 3 seconds left on the game clock all the time....
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:02 am to BeeFense5
I don't think I have ever seen that.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to geauxjo
I think people just want an answer more than anything. I agree that JJ gives us the better chance to win against Alabama and that Lee was backup going into the season. My only issue is that the situation changed before the season started and Lee was forced to become the starter. And, outside of the Alabama game, he played very well and beat some tough teams along the way. I understood the lion's share of snaps going to JJ for the rest of the Alabama game, but it was really hard to watch Lee not get a shot in SECCG. JJ was the QB and had 7 straight 3 and outs!!! That is unacceptable and it was obvious he was off on his throws. If Les is going to take out Lee for his poor play, then JJ deserves the same treatment...especially since Lee had shown early in the year that he was and is capable of being the starting QB for this team. All that being said, I trust the staff's decisions, but I have the right to disagree with their treatment of Lee in the SECCG.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
I don't think I have ever seen that.
you just start watching sports?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to Tigahs24Seven
uhhh perhaps he was borderline and got over the hump after the games were over?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to graychef
How do you explain some fans posting about topics they know very little about..??..you can't, thats the point, unless you can read someones mind, you have NO IDEA why people make the decisions they make,..all you do is SPECULATE...sometimes its best to leave things unspoken...give it a try...
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to Tigahs24Seven
quote:
How do you explain Miles treatment of Lee now that he was not ...
Anyone who has seen the movie Slevin knows that Miles is running the classic Kansas City Shuffle.
1] Nick has to prepare for 2 QB's
2] If Nick doesn't, he will be caught with his pants down when Lee enters or starts the game
3] This will go down as the greatest Kansas City Shuffle of all time
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