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Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:45 am to TheDoc
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With that being said, he was missing wide open receivers all night that we've all seen him hit routinely.
a good defensive scheme can do that to you
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:47 am to YellowShoe
You're trying too hard fella.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:49 am to ForeLSU
Fore, I was at the game and he had 5-6 seconds to throw a lot yesterday and was awful at putting the ball in the right spot
Their WR's had our CB's beat several times but Johnny was overthrowing them. Defense played great, but got lucky on a few unforced bad throws from mr heisman
Their WR's had our CB's beat several times but Johnny was overthrowing them. Defense played great, but got lucky on a few unforced bad throws from mr heisman
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:50 am to mmcgrath
Bamas D not as good as ours. Fact. Manziel was sick. Sick of seeing DEs on the side of him pinhcing him to move his little frame forward. Robinson played aggressive on Evans who is accustom to pushing dbs off for open passes = A cry a baby. Few extended plays to find an open receiver and quite frankly not a lot of open receivers = Manziel sick and just not himself = N/Heisman. Mett better than Maziel and Mccarron Media darlings got drilled against TIGERS!!
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:54 am to TheDoc
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but got lucky on a few unforced bad throws
that pretty much happens to most every team, every game. He had an off day, no, doubt, but many times that is because you're frustrated or because of the scheme you're looking at. On at least one of the overthrows, White was right behind the receiver and directly in between him and JF. To the QB the man basically looks covered and your only hope for a completion is to throw it deeper and hope the receiver can catch up to it.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:54 am to barry
Go post this on this on the SEC rant, then just sit back and watch the meltdown.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:55 am to The Mick
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Is it possible that LSUs D was phenomenal last night AND Johnny had an off night? Or does it have to be one or the other?
Or just maybe LSU's D was phenomenal last night RESULTING in Johnny's off night. Gotta love the 'tards that just can't give LSU (or more specifically Miles) any credit.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:56 am to ForeLSU
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He had an off day
He did, but we still have to credit the defense for harassing him and making him uncomfortable all day.
Chavis earned his $ yesterday
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:58 am to 1984Tiger
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Or just maybe LSU's D was phenomenal last night RESULTING in Johnny's off night. Gotta love the 'tards that just can't give LSU (or more specifically Miles) any credit.
Or it was a bit of both.
Anyone that has watched him play this year knows he made some terrible unforced throws downfield that hit normally hits.
These were throws that he had a clean pocket and a receiver that had sling shotted himself away from the Lsu db
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:03 am to TheDoc
I think the weather may have affected him but not how most think. I think it may have hindered him standing on the sideline getting cold for so long while LSU ate up clock, then he'd have to come in cold and chunk the ball. It may have kept him out of rhythm. Also, judging by his bewilderment after a few overthrows towards the sideline, the crowned field may have affected him. But it all comes down to a great gameplan by LSU.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:03 am to TigerFanNKaty
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I think the weather affected him, and LSU played their best game by far on Defense. They also did not try to attack the middle enough.
The weather really wasn't bad at all. I never got wet sitting in the stands. Field looked to be in great shape. I didn't see any footing issues, except when aTm WRs were pushing off.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:09 am to motorbreath
The getting cold theory is interesting. Would further show how impressive our gameplan/domination of TOP was.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:12 am to barry
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How could Chavis figure out how to stop JM but Saban and Smart couldn't?
It's a match up issue. Chavis recruits guys who are smaller and quicker which is what you need against spread offenses. Against power run teams, that personnel will struggle.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:14 am to ulmtiger
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Bamas D not as good as ours. Fact.
But we're undefeated and beat you by 21Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:23 am to MontyFranklyn
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Bamas D not as good as ours. Fact.
Bama's D wasn't as good as LSU's against A&M
I would hope that's what he was saying.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:25 am to TigerFanNKaty
I agree that the weather affected Manziel. He didn't seem to be right. Of course, the LSU defense had a lot to do with his discomfort. My son attended his first LSU game and had a blast except for the cold and wet. Worth the drive from Houston.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:25 am to Oyster
Chavis broke many of his normal Tampa 2 tendencies yesterday which was a big positive. The change caused confusion upfront as well in Manziel's head. You tell Manziel wasn't sure what he was seeing at times & that resulted in him holding on to the ball or taking off running.
I tip my hat to Chavis & the players. I've criticized Chavis for being too simple & relying too much on the Tampa 2 & off man & zone but he changed that up yesterday. At one point in the 1st quarter, Chavis had Tre White lined up as an outside linebacker on a 3rd & long.
The players also executed the game plan to perfection. Major props to Robinson for stepping up & playing very physical against a very physical receiver.
Moving forward, I really hope Chavis keeps up the creativity & versatility. One reason being that once the talent level on defense goes back up, there will be the opportunity to have a dominating, smothering defense, not just bend don't break. Secondly, it's to the benefit of both Chavis & players to be creative because it cuts the players loose & let's them make plays. In the Tampa 2 there's just too much thinking involved which doesn't allow the athletes on defense to fly around.
I tip my hat to Chavis & the players. I've criticized Chavis for being too simple & relying too much on the Tampa 2 & off man & zone but he changed that up yesterday. At one point in the 1st quarter, Chavis had Tre White lined up as an outside linebacker on a 3rd & long.
The players also executed the game plan to perfection. Major props to Robinson for stepping up & playing very physical against a very physical receiver.
Moving forward, I really hope Chavis keeps up the creativity & versatility. One reason being that once the talent level on defense goes back up, there will be the opportunity to have a dominating, smothering defense, not just bend don't break. Secondly, it's to the benefit of both Chavis & players to be creative because it cuts the players loose & let's them make plays. In the Tampa 2 there's just too much thinking involved which doesn't allow the athletes on defense to fly around.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:28 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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lolwut? He was placing nice balls all day. If anything WRs had a severe case of the drops.
not sure what game you watched. He over threw about 5 passes that were within the field of play. Then he over threw another 3-4 that went out of bounds and didnt even give his WRs a chance.
And yes, his WRs dropped 3 balls.
Manziel was horribly inaccurate yesterday. LSU's pressure was not very good. Their coverage was really good at times.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 11:30 am to TheDoc
Something was off? Obviously who the hell is used to playing in a windy stiff dew?
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