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How can college officials over 2 qtrs to throw a flag

Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:03 pm
on the Florida center for intentionally drawing the defense offsides with his head movement. It is illegal to do so, or he wouldn't have been flagged in the 3rd quarter for it. SEC officials are turrable.
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:05 pm to
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How can college officials over 2 qtrs to throw a flag on the Florida center for intentionally drawing the defense offsides with his head movement.

Because they didn't jump offsides in over 2 qtrs.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:07 pm to
I want to know why it had to happen about 5 times before Les got to the official to tell him something ... I give Les this, when he DID get to the ref about it he sure was animated!
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:09 pm to
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Because they didn't jump offsides in over 2 qtrs


I'm watching the replay right now. He was causing the defense to jump with his head nods. The refs flag the center for it in the 3rd quarter. Why did it take so long?
Posted by craignettles
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:09 pm to
Jordy, said that Les brought it up early in the second quarter and was ignored. They talked at the half and Chevis told Alexander to cream him immediately and point to the center. The talk by Miles and instructions at the half took care of it.

He did not turn his head again. Apparently, Fla's claim is that is the signal to give his lineman a silent motion to overcome crowd noise letting the OL know of the snap.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:12 pm to
I saw earlier tonight on the replay Les getting on an official about it .. very animated I thought. I'll be DAMN if the center didn't go right back and do it afreakingain ... with no call whatsoever.
Posted by lovinLSU
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:12 pm to
the officials were keened in on the offsides more than the offensive pass interference for sure....
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:19 pm to
While we're at it, what is the rulebook definition for holding? I think over the last 3 years that opposing offenses have been called for about 3 holding calls total. I just watched Tebow scramble, and one of their lineman had one hand on the 9 in front of the jersey and the other hand on the 7 in the back of the jersey and pushed our d-lineman past Tebow as he ran away. How is that not holding or a block in the back?
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:19 pm to
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I'm watching the replay right now. He was causing the defense to jump with his head nods.

At what times?
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:20 pm to
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At what times?


About every fricking offensive play in the first half...
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:23 pm to
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About every fricking offensive play in the first half


this
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:28 pm to
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About every fricking offensive play in the first half...


Not the silent count with his head....the time of each offsides by the defense. Idiot
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:30 pm to
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the time of each offsides by the defense


I'll let you know Wednesday when it replays again.
Posted by Brbengal
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:30 pm to
He was not moving his head forward abruptly, simulating action at the snap. It was not a false start.


Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:32 pm to
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It was not a false start.


Then why did they call it on him in the 3rd quarter?
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:33 pm to
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He was not moving his head forward abruptly


I was five rows from the top of the SS and I could see him moving his head when they were on the 20 yard line of the south endzone...

Please...it was missed multiple times.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:35 pm to
Because they didn't jump offsides in over 2 qtrs
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and the announcers made this comment in the first quarter ... I was saying WTF
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:35 pm to
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I'll let you know Wednesday when it replays again.


Thanks...because I saved the game video and found a couple of time where LSU lined up in the neutral zone and one where the tackle tried to time the silent count.. NONE of those were false starts by the center.



Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:38 pm to
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I could see him moving his head

Nobody said he wasn't moving his head, but moving his head does not necessarily constitute a false start. On each play he looked left, delayed, and then snapped the ball.
Posted by mrbayoublu
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 8:39 pm to
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How is that not holding or a block in the back?


Against Florida, when you see their running back wide open on the outside gaining big chunks of yardage, fans think they really faked our defense out.

It's called holding, big time. Now we have all learned the true nature of an Urban Myer coached team.

You see dirty tricks in high school, not so much in college, and then more so, like New England, in the NFL.

Anyway to get a win. That ain't why we lost. Despite what Florida does offensively and defensively, if LSU tried everything in the offensive playbook to move the football, the we win or go down swinging instead of like a wus.

Offense is not geared for the players; the players must adjust and of course, this is disastrous.
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